@Sven,

(While going thru the book ".../DeployForProduction...")

seems section 1 & 2 would have to be updated ...

In section 3 Build Your Image ... 
what is the script for installing dependencies from github and having a
Baseline (instead of Configuration) as practically all packages have moved
to Github

and
In this method it seems the image is never saved / persistent. In the event
of a stoppage it begins ground up. Is that correct ?


Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
>> On 16 May 2020, at 11:15, Sanjay Minni <

> sm@

> > wrote:
>> 
>> Can I run this way the same image which otherwise runs fine thru the
>> graphical environment
>> 
>> When I run that image in graphical environment it immediately starts as
>> the
>> application server. So cwould it work from the command line tools without
>> changes.
>> 
>> ...$ ...
>> ...$ nohup ./pharo 
> <myPharo.imageWithCompletePath>
> In principle, yes.
> 
> But I recommend to not have running servers/services in the saved image,
> but instead to save (better auto build) a new clean image with nothing
> open (close all windows), nothing running, just your code. And then use a
> startup script.
> 
> Either use a run.st file which does all the work, or a class side 'MyStart
> startForProduction'.
> 
> Please read the book chapter.
> 
>> Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
>>>> On 16 May 2020, at 09:22, Sven Van Caekenberghe &lt;
>> 
>>> sven@
>> 
>>> &gt; wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Everybody is free to do whatever they want, of course.
>>>> 
>>>> My advice would be to not use graphical tools to deploy server
>>>> applications (unless as add ons afterwards, like a dashboard or
>>>> management app).
>>>> 
>>>> Use Linux (Ubuntu is the safest choice).
>>>> 
>>>> Stick with headless (no gui) command line tools.
>>>> 
>>>> Pharo is very good at this.
>>> 
>>> Also use 64-bit (that is 64-bit Pharo on 64-bit Linux), it will make
>>> your
>>> life much easier.
>>> 
>>> Here is a short example:
>>> 
>>> stfx@audio359:~$ mkdir pharo8
>>> 
>>> stfx@audio359:~$ cd !$
>>> cd pharo8
>>> 
>>> stfx@audio359:~/pharo8$ curl get.pharo.org/64/80+vm | bash
>>>  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time 
>>> Current
>>>                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left 
>>> Speed
>>> 100  3054  100  3054    0     0  67866      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--
>>> 69409
>>> Downloading the latest 80 Image:
>>>    http://files.pharo.org/get-files/80/pharo64.zip
>>> Pharo.image
>>> Downloading the latest pharoVM:
>>>     http://files.pharo.org/get-files/80/pharo64-linux-stable.zip
>>> pharo-vm/pharo
>>> Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
>>> 
>>> stfx@audio359:~/pharo8$ nohup ./pharo Pharo.image eval --no-quit
>>> 'ZnServer
>>> startOn: 9090' &
>>> [1] 84125
>>> nohup: ignoring input and appending output to 'nohup.out'
>>> 
>>> stfx@audio359:~/pharo8$ curl http://localhost:9090/random
>>> CF4173824EF6E0D9F336E5464A5FACB8ABEFFD1A6EE7A5F9F6631186F619606
>>> 
>>> stfx@audio359:~/pharo8$ jobs
>>> [1]+  Running                 nohup ./pharo Pharo.image eval --no-quit
>>> 'ZnServer startOn: 9090' &
>>> 
>>> stfx@audio359:~/pharo8$ kill %1
>>> [1]+  Terminated              nohup ./pharo Pharo.image eval --no-quit
>>> 'ZnServer startOn: 9090'
>>> 
>>> BTW, nohup is one way to keep something running after you log out
>>> (systemctl services being the pro/real way)
>>> 
>>>> The following book chapter explain things reasonably well: 
>>>> 
>>>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/book-result/DeploymentWeb/DeployForProduction.html
>>>> 
>>>> Nowadays, you would use Baselines and git though.
>>>> 
>>>> I can give you more info if you want. Feel free to ask questions.
>>>> 
>>>> Sven
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 May 2020, at 07:00, Sanjay Minni &lt;
>> 
>>> sm@
>> 
>>> &gt; wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eventually in a Digitalocean Ubuntu droplet, I connected from Windows
>>>>> 10
>>>>> to
>>>>> a Ubuntu Graphical desktop, installed PharoLauncher and couple of
>>>>> images
>>>>> and
>>>>> got seaside up, installed Mongo DB and a Pharo App. pretty smooth and
>>>>> can
>>>>> share how to step by step if anybody is interested.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (note: no additional software is required on Windows 10 except chrome
>>>>> -
>>>>> as
>>>>> SSH, Remote Desktop is inbuilt, Chrome only for its VNC app)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Question: what is the best way to run and leave the Pharo App as a
>>>>> seaside
>>>>> server running.  
>>>>> Currently I am running thru the X Desktop and if I Disconnect / logout
>>>>> from
>>>>> the remote desktop session then the pharo app may go down. also is
>>>>> that
>>>>> the
>>>>> most stable and resource optimised way
>>>>> 
>>>>> further: is Apache recommended
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----
>>>>> cheers, 
>>>>> Sanjay
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> cheers, 
>> Sanjay
>> --
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