Le 17/10/2018 à 07:36, H. Hirzel a écrit :
The successor of Ni is 'Spry'
https://github.com/gokr/spry
http://sprylang.se/
"Spry borrows homoiconicity from Rebol and Lisp, free form syntax from
Forth and Rebol, the word of different types from Rebol, good data
structure literal support from JavaScript and the general coding
experience and style from Smalltalk. It also has a few ideas of its
own, like an interesting argument passing mechanism and a relatively
novel take on OO."
--Hannes
On 10/17/18, Ben Coman <b...@openinworld.com> wrote:
Have you looked at Ni? (I only read about it)
http://goran.krampe.se/2015/09/16/ni-a-strange-little-language/
Went there and ended up far more interested by Nim than by Spry ;)
Thanks for the links!
Thierry
cheers -ben
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 03:45, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank you Thierry , that was exactly what i was looking for :)
On the subject of syntax, StrongTalk looks far more advanced compared to
what I am aiming which is basically writting C code with Smalltalk like
syntax. I am looking at this
http://bracha.org/nwst.html
Which describes some really impressive features. So I am aiming only for
source to source compiler and not implementation of complex systems for
incremental compilations , optional type system etc.
On parsing strange code that is not much of an issue cause the project I
am working on has pretty reasonable code and will probably offer a way to
inline c code in case the parser fail. In any case my goals are small ,
cause I dont have resources for complex implementations. Its also a
language that will be designed solely for my needs and be offered open
source for anyone else that may find it useful. In any case I am sure I
will have many questions to ask :)
I was looking into ANTLR , since the book I am reading on language design
is using ANTLR but I rather implement this in Pharo. I used SmaCC when I
was working for my Python bridge and I really liked it , mostly because
it
offers ready made syntax definitions for most popular languages. Which
makes my life a lot easier.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:45 PM Thierry Goubier
<thierry.goub...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Dimitris,
Le 16/10/2018 à 19:39, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit :
yes i already said that i followed the instructions in the github repo
Yes, by default that installation of SmaCC does not load all parsers
(some of them are fairly large). However, most of them are in the
downloaded repository, so you can load them independently.
Otherwise, loading that way, should load everything:
Metacello new
baseline: 'SmaCC';
repository: 'github://SmaCCRefactoring/SmaCC';
load: #('Tools' 'Examples' 'Examples-Extra')
Regarding your language question, I'd suggest two things:
- Look at StrongTalk for a way to write Smalltalk with type
declarations...
- C parsers able to parse most strange C code one may encounter takes
some work...
Regards,
Thierry
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 8:18 PM H. Hirzel <hannes.hir...@gmail.com
<mailto:hannes.hir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Refers to
https://github.com/SmaCCRefactoring/SmaCC
which says
This is the port for Smalltalk/Pharo 1.3, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.
Installing a Development version of Pharo for the latest Pharo
(with
no guarantees):
Metacello new
baseline: 'SmaCC';
repository: 'github://SmaCCRefactoring/SmaCC';
load
On 10/16/18, H. Hirzel <hannes.hir...@gmail.com
<mailto:hannes.hir...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> What about trying
>
>
> Metacello new
> baseline: 'SmaCC';
> repository: 'github://ThierryGoubier/SmaCC';
> load
>
> This worked in Pharo 6.1 in November 2017
>
> On 10/16/18, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com
<mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> thanks for the info Peter , will give it a try :)
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:35 PM PBKResearch
<pe...@pbkresearch.co.uk <mailto:pe...@pbkresearch.co.uk>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dimitris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you download the latest Moose Suite 6.1, you will have
Pharo
6.1 with
>>> lots of extra packages, including SmaCC. The SmaCC includes
compilers
>>> for
>>> C, Smalltalk and Java, among others, but with little or no
>>> documentation.
>>> I
>>> am not a SmaCC expert, so I can’t say whether it will do what
you want,
>>> but
>>> at least it will give you a start. Moose also includes
PetitParser and
>>> PP2,if you want to try other parsing approaches. Of course,
the
Windows
>>> version is 32-bit only, for reasons explained elsewhere in
this
thread.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Peter Kenny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Pharo-users <pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org
<mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org>> *On Behalf Of
>>> *Dimitris
>>> Chloupis
>>> *Sent:* 16 October 2018 15:40
>>> *To:* Any question about pharo is welcome
<pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>>
>>> *Subject:* [Pharo-users] Installing SmaCC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey guys
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I downloaded the latest Pharo 6.1 64bit for Windows and tried
to install
>>> SmaCC through the catalog browser but it failed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I did manage to install it following the instruction in the
github repo
>>> but I see that I am missing most parser packages.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The languages I am interested are Smalltalk (which is
included)
and C
>>> (if
>>> possible C++ too) cause I will be creating a new language
which
will be
>>> a
>>> cross between C and Smalltalk (very similar to smalltalk
syntax
but with
>>> the addtion of C types and no GC and dynamic typing and also
a
partial
>>> implementation of OOP that is quite diffirent). My goal is
compilation
>>> of
>>> my language to readable C code so the ability to parse also
existing C
>>> code
>>> is needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any help is greatly appreciated , thanks :)
>>>
>>
>
