Hi Dale,

I think I missed your mails. I would be interested in hearing your opinion. 
Let’s aim for a chat sometime next week. Would this work for you?

Cheers,
Doru


> On Nov 7, 2016, at 6:30 AM, Dale Henrichs <dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/6/16 1:12 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
>> Hi Stef,
>> 
>> I think that you are raising a valid point, and I actually agree with it.
>> 
>> But I think there is another side of the coin as well.
>> 
>> I think that right now we are in between worlds and this is not quite 
>> beneficial. Switching to GitHub is a significant effort, and treating it as 
>> business as usual will not work. That is why I think it is so important that 
>> we committed to the move for Pharo 7 and that we invest in the 
>> infrastructure. But, this will not be enough either if we do not get people 
>> to exercise it as soon as possible.
> Doru, there are also holes in the tool set that are not being addressed ... 
> there are a number of critical tools that need to be created and I don't see 
> anyone working on them ....
> 
> I went through this transition 5 years ago with my tool set and with the 
> proper set of tools approach the difficult transition will be a bit easier ...
> 
> As it stands Pharo is standing with one foot in two boats ... there are the 
> old Monticello tools and the new Git/Filetree tools and what is needed is a 
> tool or two that can unify to both tool sets so that the transition between 
> the two can be seamless ... these two sets of tools are not complicated and 
> there working implementations that can be adapted to Pharo or used as a 
> fairly detailed guide ...
> 
> The confusion and frustration that I see now is not a surprise to me ... I 
> wrote" the emails" at the beginning of this year because I saw that Pharo was 
> finally reaching a critical point in its move to integrate git into the 
> mainstream development environment and I knew that these types of issues were 
> going to come up where Monticello and Git were going to create friction --- 
> friction that can be reduced by creating some simple "unifying tools" ...
> 
> I want to help, I have tried to help and I am still willing to help, but I 
> cannot write the tools for Pharo ...
> 
> Dale
> 

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