" ah, but this is fake (we have a bug shrinking the image). real image is around 32m. sources are also 32m. changes are going to be zero on release. "
You mean a bug increasing the image size, because otherwise I dont understand you " how you get 43m in vm? my VMs (all of them, linux, win and mac), are never bigger than 12m cheers! Esteban " aha you are correct , in the vm folder contains the pharoV5.sources. This is very nice, 12 mb VM indeed, so there is a lot more room to compress than I initially thought. "Dimitris Add some node project size with npm dependencies for some nice sizes too. There it is also in terms of the number of files..." from what I am reading online, npm projects tend to be around 100 mbs, but still they give you no GUIs and no IDE. so maybe its 100 mb NPM + 200 MB the browser (Chrome / Firefox) + 100 MB the IDE plus some extra tools. But I am not NodeJS developer so I cannot confirm this. I have experience with all the languages I mentioned but I try to avoid the mess that is called "web development". By the way , those numbers are not much diiferent from Pharo. All the example I have that are 4-100x times bigger than Pharo offer also the equivalent libraries set , tools etc. For example Java and Python libraries are far larger than Pharo's. Most likely NPM is in that category. The lesson from this story is If you want a powerful environment expect to pay in hundreds of megabytes. If don't care then you can go down to few hundreds kbs . However judging from what is popular I think its safe to assume that developers love large powerful environments and don't care about size. Pharo if we take into account the size of its library , IDEs , tools etc 100 MBs is pretty much a very reasonable size. Now if we want to deliver a Lua-like Pharo version, with almost no VM, no library, no guis, no IDE just for the purpose of embedding it as a scripting engine, I am all for it. I cannot say I need it, but why not. But lets stop calling Pharo , fat, its not true and its rude. Pharo has feelings too you know :D
