2016-03-10 15:52 GMT+01:00 Peter Uhnák <i.uh...@gmail.com>: > I'm looking at the dependencies of pharo-launcher on ubuntu, and I don't >> see any dependency on libcairo2:i386. > > > It's a Cairo dependency, not necessarily Pharo's dependency — i.e. you can > use Pharo for a long time and never need cairo. > > For a smother Gnu/Linux experience, the message could be a little bit more >> descriptive, something advicing to check for LibCairo 32 bit in the system >> and installing it, if it is not present. > > > Well the error does say 'Cannot locate cairo library. Please check if it > installed on your system', and from the paths it's checking its pretty > clear what it needs. >
Ok. Just to check. Are you advocating that leaving out cairo as a dependency of the main pharo app for new pharo users is a 'feature'? Thierry > > So if you are a linux user it's more than enough to see what's going > on/what's needed. > And if you are not a linux user, then anything short of exact instructions > how to install it would be imho equally useless. > > I have been thinking in some kind of interface with the Nix package >> manager[2] > > > Because what's better than telling users how to install a package in a > particular distro? > Tell them how to install a whole new package manager in their particular > distro and then tell them how to install a package. > > We can also go all the way and just bundle all the libraries and have > option to download "self-contained linux vm" (this is what I've actually > done for one of my projects, because the users didn't have root privilege > to install new packages on the computers). > > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < > offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > >> Evan, >> >> We had this problem in every Data Week workshop. Is just matter of >> installing the libcairo 32 bits package for your Linux distro. In the case >> of ubuntu, you could adapt instructions at [1]. For a smother Gnu/Linux >> experience, the message could be a little bit more descriptive, something >> advicing to check for LibCairo 32 bit in the system and installing it, if >> it is not present. About multi-unix package installation support, I have >> been thinking in some kind of interface with the Nix package manager[2], so >> when something is not there, Pharo could offer automatic installation. >> >> [1] >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package >> [2] http://nixos.org/nix/ >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >> >> On 10/03/16 09:12, Peter Uhnák wrote: >> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Alexandre Bergel < >> <alexandre.ber...@me.com>alexandre.ber...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> Evan, let us know how it goes! This is important to understand what’s >>> going on >>> >> >> Well this is well-known thing. Pharo is 32bit only, so all libraries have >> to be also. >> >> But maybe it could be mentioned just-in-case somewhere on the website, >> and ways how to install it on linux (i.e. what command should the linux >> user execute in his particular distro, e.g. apt-get install libcairo2:i386 >> on debian/ubuntu, XYZ on Arch linux, etc.)? >> >> For both Windows and Mac the cairo library is bundled with the VM, but in >> linux it's a bad practice and package manager should be used instead to >> install the packages (on linux it's actually 6 libraries, but package >> manager handles the dependencies automatically). >> >> Peter >> >> >> >
