2016-02-07 5:33 GMT-03:00 stepharo <steph...@free.fr>: > > > Le 6/2/16 21:44, Hernán Morales Durand a écrit : > > As always I don't have time to open, follow and check issues. It is faster > (for me) if I have them isolated. > But my repos are always open and anyone can feel free to ask me about the > extensions. > Sorry for this. > > I cannot believe that it takes you that much time to open a bug entry and > package your changes > compared with getting impacted the next teim we will do a pass on spec > > When I am coding I am concentrated in building features for my application, I cannot stop 5 minutes every time I find missing or bug in methods in Spec, Metacello, Glamour (which is *very* often), or other core packages.
On the other side opening an entry is more than saying "this doesn't work", there is a context of usage you have to explain, you have to search for previously opened similar entries, you have to try to reproduce the exact steps (not always possible), describe them in an undestandable way for the reader, and if you propose a fix sometimes you have to explain again, and check for regressions.... you all know the right steps. So in this case, I have packaged my Spec extensions (which needs to be reviewed anyway) and uploaded to SmalltalkHub under MIT license. I am sorry to hear that is not enough for you. If anyone really wish to review extensions in Spec please welcome - because they would probably also contains bugs - I cannot do more for Pharo now and I have to work for my employer which is asking me everyday things completely far far away from Pharo (you know I do not want to get fired :). Now you are telling us that do not know what you did to do that. > This is a bit unfair when I see the COUNTLESS hours I spend writing docs > and improving Pharo. > > Yes, and I think most of us sincerely appreciate your efforts. And I also believe many of us have our own battles. Actually I had to "fight" every week for Pharo because having people telling Python/R has implemented X (which is crappy argument) is not easy. Hernán > Stef > > > Hernán > > > 2016-02-06 16:45 GMT-03:00 stepharo <steph...@free.fr>: > >> Hernan >> >> why did you push such extensions in the main spec version inside the >> image? >> I do not get the rationale of not doing it. Especially since we always >> welcome >> enhancements. >> >> Stef >> >> Le 5/2/16 18:55, Hernán Morales Durand a écrit : >> >> BTW have a look at http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/SpecUIAddOns . >> Repository contains behaviors I had to add while developing a desktop >> application. >> >> Hernan >> >> >> 2016-02-05 8:52 GMT-03:00 Hernán Morales Durand < >> <hernan.mora...@gmail.com>hernan.mora...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Hi Hilaire, >>> >>> 2016-02-04 13:42 GMT-03:00 Hilaire < <hila...@drgeo.eu>hila...@drgeo.eu> >>> : >>> >>>> Hello >>>> >>>> I want to evaluate the use of Spec for desktop application. >>>> >>>> What are the recommended spec reading? >>>> >>>> >>> In this case, the best is to read source code in the image. >>> >>> >>>> Is Spec feature complete enough to develop application with complex GUI? >>>> (very subjective question) >>>> >>>> >>> Besides all good intentions and nice innocent feelings, Spec is not >>> ready yet for professional UI development. However you can lower your >>> ambitions by building simpler UI components. The lack of a UI builder is >>> not helping at all. >>> >>> Hernán >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
