> On 27 Jan 2016, at 23:03, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 27 Jan 2016, at 22:56, Jimmie Houchin <jlhouc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I did not express myself well. What I am meaning is that I do not 
>> expect to have a UI window for the image pop-up. But it does, every time.
>> 
>> The difference that I can find is that I have been downloading VMs from
>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/
>> 
>> These VMs have only a "pharo" and not a "pharo-ui". So ./pharo always opens 
>> an image in a UI window.
>> 
>> When I do
>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/stable+vm | bash
>> 
>> Then it generates a pharo and a pharo-ui script.
>> 
>> This is probably the problem that I am having is that the manual downloads 
>> from the website are not like the zeroconf scripts and so there are no 
>> explicit UI and Headless scripts.
>> 
>> These zeroconf VMs with their differing scripts do exactly as advertised. 
>> Are the generated scripts different for different Linux distros? Is there a 
>> reason for the zipped downloads on the website to not include them?
> 
> They are not that different. The 'secret' is the --nodisplay VM option, 
> that's all. If you know what you are doing, there is actually something to 
> say for not using the .sh wrapper scripts.
> 
>> I tried the "get" handler and had it install XMLParser. Very nice.
> 
> Good !

yes, the “get” command is one of the lastest cool additions (not because I 
added it ;) )
but the capability of express 

./pharo Pharo.image get Seaside3 

(for example)
is very convenient :)

Esteban 

> 
> Yes, once it works this is all very slick.
> 
>> Thanks and Shalom Aleichem.
>> 
>> Jimmie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 01/27/2016 01:21 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>>> Jimmie,
>>> 
>>> Of course it opens an image, else nothing would work ;-)
>>> I suspect you mean it opens a UI ?
>>> That should not happen, it depends on what your ./pharo actually is or does.
>>> In any case, rest assured, using it on the command line works perfectly.
>>> 
>>> On the first Linux server that I log in to:
>>> 
>>> $ cat ~/pharo/bin/pharo
>>> #!/usr/bin/env bash
>>> # some magic to find out the real location of this script dealing with 
>>> symlinks
>>> DIR=`readlink "$0"` || DIR="$0";
>>> DIR=`dirname "$DIR"`;
>>> cd "$DIR"
>>> DIR=`pwd`
>>> cd - > /dev/null
>>> # disable parameter expansion to forward all arguments unprocessed to the VM
>>> set -f
>>> # run the VM and pass along all arguments as is
>>> "$DIR"/"pharo-vm/pharo" --nodisplay  "$@"
>>> 
>>> $ ~/pharo/bin/pharo ~/pharo/build/Pharo.image --list
>>> Currently installed Command Line Handlers:
>>>    Fuel            Loads fuel files
>>>    config          Install and inspect Metacello Configurations from the 
>>> command line
>>>    save            Rename the image and changes file
>>>    update          Load updates
>>>    printVersion    Print image version
>>>    st              Loads and executes .st source files
>>>    test            A command line test runner
>>>    clean           Run image cleanup
>>>    eval            Directly evaluates passed in one line scripts
>>> 
>>> $ ~/pharo/bin/pharo ~/pharo/build/Pharo.image eval '123 factorial'
>>> 12146304367025329675766243241881295855454217088483382315328918161829235892362167668831156960612640202170735835221294047782591091570411651472186029519906261646730733907419814952960000000000000000000000000000
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Sven
>>> 
>>>> On 27 Jan 2016, at 19:59, Jimmie Houchin <jlhouc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I am reading the Deep Into Pharo book. I have been playing with the 
>>>> CommandLineHandler. I have been surprised by some of its behavior. Though 
>>>> I have used Pharo a long time. I have not played with it from the command 
>>>> line. I am a very long time Linux user and am very comfortable on the 
>>>> command line.
>>>> 
>>>> When according to the book I execute:
>>>> 
>>>> ./pharo Pharo.image --list
>>>> 
>>>> It will provide me with a list of the available handlers.
>>>> 
>>>> I did not expect it to open up an image for me. That is not what I 
>>>> expected or wanted. I did not intend to use an image at this time. I am on 
>>>> the command line and expecting to see results there. Not for a new window 
>>>> to pop up.
>>>> 
>>>> As of yet I have always opened up Pharo on the command line. I have yet to 
>>>> use PharoLauncher, but do intend to do so soon. So I am comfortable with  
>>>> Pharo opening up a new window and image from the command line.
>>>> 
>>>> However it is very unintuitive and seemingly unnecessary to open up an 
>>>> image for these command line handlers. I naively think they should simply 
>>>> return the results. Now if that requires opening a headless image for a 
>>>> moment and close, then fine.
>>>> 
>>>> --list
>>>> --help
>>>> --version
>>>> --copyright
>>>> eval
>>>> printVersion
>>>> 
>>>> Some other handlers I do not know if opening an image is the correct 
>>>> default. I have not spent the time learning them yet.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.  Shalom Aleichem.
>>>> 
>>>> Jimmie

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