2015-06-25 15:56 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.ber...@me.com>:

> Thanks Doru for your inspiring words.
>
> Recently I had a “coup de blues” because Pharo is completely absent from
> the StackOverflow and Github scene. I feel it is like a researcher without
> a webpage. Without a webpage, he does not exist.
>

Well, we could put Roassal on github ;)


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> But I have faith things will soon change...
>

I hope so. It would make Roassal configurations and versions a tad easier :)

If I was to use Roassal in a professionnal product, I'd be really tempted
to do a freeze of Roassal on github along with a few of its dependencies :P

Thierry


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> Alexandre
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> On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I gave last week a talk at NDC Oslo on "Don't demo facts. Demo stories!".
> While the talk is less technical, I did exemplified the message by demoing
> Spotter in comparison with the search support from Eclipse.
>
> There are several things I would like to emphasize.
>
> I compared our solution with an "industry standard" one. We often think
> our system as being niche and perhaps not mature enough. We need to change
> that perception about our work. We build state of the art.
>
> One thing that I did not mention explicitly in the talk is the size of the
> implementation. The Spotter implementation is 3500 lines of code -- and
> that it is so large because it currently comes with its own widgets.
> Furthermore, the extensions average 8 lines per custom processor (including
> the method header and the pragma). This is orders of magnitude smaller than
> what is typically out there, and it is precisely the reason why we can
> compete even if we are fewer.
>
> But, to get out there and compete we have to set that high goal for
> ourselves. For example, with GT we do not want to compete. We want to
> outcompete. So can you.
>
> While details are important, high goals require us to get away from those
> details. Only polishing details will tend to limit you to incremental
> improvements. We need to jump from time to time. But, these jumps are hard.
> On the one hand, it is hard to find the right jump and convince people to
> jump with you. On the other hand, they are hard to predict. For example,
> Spotter would have not been predictable one year ago.
>
> Yet, dry goals are not enough to keep us going. We need stories that make
> us dream. And the beauty is that Pharo breaths such a story. We should not
> limit ourselves to that story only. For example, with GT we want to
> reinvent the developer experience by making the developer be able to mold
> visual tools to her context because that is the only effective way to build
> sustainable systems. This little point of view will turn the IDE upside
> down, and this is only possible in a system like Pharo.
>
> Choose your high goal and tell its story through the system that you
> build. And remember that Pharo already offers a beautiful story to start
> from.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
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> "Every thing has its own flow"
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