I would be interested by having an example that I could use to rewrite
the spec documentation:
- would be good to have a kind of container relationships
to be able to display multiple list
- the model should not be too complex to explain.
So if you have data and idea I'm all ears.
Stef
Le 28/12/14 19:16, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
On 28 Dec 2014, at 19:05, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <off...@riseup.net>
wrote:
Hi,
Just reviewing the old message I found this:
[...]
Finally, can we please stop using class browsers as examples? I know that it
is easy (and cool) to use reflection to get lists of classes, protocols and
methods but this only adds to the impression that the smalltalk community is
self-absorbed and narcissistic. If you want to attract business developers
then use examples that relate to the real world, not to the pharo
environment itself. Why not a database example or a paint application
example? No one wants to write a class browser - that's already available!
Perhaps I should stop before this becomes filed under /Why is
smalltalk/pharo so unpopular./
I mean to be constructive, some please be patient if I can't express myself properly, but
I have this impression of being "self-absorbed" on the documentation of Agile
Visualization.
As I have said my workshops with people here are something like:
1. Wow! Pharo is so easy to install and to get beautiful visualizations.
2. Where the data comes from? Ohh is mostly about the data that Pharo contains
about itself. How can I add new data?
I think that we need a way to show that new data can be added easily. For example would
be nice to have a visualization about what happens on social networks like twitter with a
graph. and having ways to show data as tables that can be editable more directly (like a
spread sheet) instead of the indirect manipulation of "static" data like the
ones in earthquakes examples.
I will try to help implementing my suggestions but maybe people working on
documentation could think about how to make it less self-absorbed with Pharo
itself and more around data from the external world.
I agree, there should be more examples about real-world stuff as opposed to
meta information about programming. Of course, that *is* Moose's origin.
Now, I have seen various examples with maps ...
It should also be quite easy to load any public data in Pharo. We got HTTP(S)
functionality, can open/read any file, parse CSV, JSON, XML and so on straight
into objects. I am always willing to help if anyone struggles with any of my
frameworks.
Cheers,
Offray
