On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:44 PM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: > > > Le 11/12/14 14:44, p...@highoctane.be a écrit : > > > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:01 PM, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> can you resize the pharo windows ? I saw you struggle with it there >> >> It also looks like its crawling there , which iPad is this , which >> generation ? >> > > This is an iPad2. Pure Morphic is fine, what is not is Nautilus. I guess > with AltBrowser it would be fine. > > I've had a game I wrote for kids (internal stuff done for my wife's kids > help practice) and it was fine with drag and drop and all. > > Now for games on iOS I do use Monkey-X. But I'd love to have a Pharo set > of classes that would be gaming specific. > > > Me too. > I proposed a topic going in that direction for array based board game. > Now could you spend some time to describe what you would like and what > classes would be needed? >
We could take a kind of remix of Trachel, which has animation and stuff in already and Ludus which now runs in Amber but can be ported pretty much easily as a week end project. As my reference is Monkey-X for the core, here is the API: http://www.monkey-x.com/docs/html/API%20Reference.html One level above, one can do something like a port of Flixel to Pharo, as there is in http://devolonter.github.io/flixel-monkey/ Features Basic collisions between objects Easily generate and emit particles Camera system for split screen Resolution policies Create game levels using tilemaps Record and play back replays Text display and scrolling Pathfinding and following Tweening system Group objects together for simplicity Math & color utilities Easy object recycling I am also using Diddy https://code.google.com/p/diddy/ Features: Collections (ArrayList, etc.) Tweening Screen-Based Framework Sprites / Particles GUI (Buttons, Sliders, Windows) Serialization XML reader/writer Base64 encoding/decoding Tile Engine (Using the Tiled Map Editor) Now, there is also a new framework called ignition that was in the works for a year or two. http://www.playniax.com/ That's quite good. http://www.playniax.com/demos.html Sample game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ykGmat4Kyo#t=74 Now, one can think about making a Monkey-X based engine and scripting it with Pharo a bit like Kilon does with Blender. Here we could do more direct with FFI/NB as all Monkey-X code can compile to C. Phil > > We could have very fast plugins for all the game engine and script it > with Pharo. Kind of what one does with Lua. > > The touch paradigm is different from what one can do on a desktop. It is > not that Pharo has to work on an iPad. What would be nicer is to have an > image running on it and to which one would connect remotely for remote > coding. > > > Yes :) > > What I was interested in with the bluetooth keyboard project is to see > how to have a kind of dynabook style thing. But Apple has crippled a lot of > things, like for an external keyboard support like this one has to use > internal undocumented APIs for the gsEvents and this will prevent anything > to go to the AppStore. And then one sees apps like iAWriter which has such > keyboard support, that's weird. > > It depends who is the application validator. My impression is that their > process sucks. > I talked once with john and it was a bit surnatural. > > Also, as a result, you realize that there is no ESC key on an iPad, > that you miss a ton of keys that you take for granted on a desktop. > Also, all keyboard scancodes are different in various brands and it is a > true ball of knots. No wonder Apple has one supersimplified protocol for > input that prevents your from doing powerful keyboard based things. Meh. > > Long story short, Android looks much better in that regard, and that's > where I am looking at these days. > > I've got a new Galaxy Alpha Octocore thing and frankly, it blows any > iPhone 6 out of the water. I am done with iOS I'd say. > When going to places, there are so much more Android devices than > iDevices... These Android things are like the beige boxes of the 90's. > You know who won at the time. > > So, next holidays, I'll have a look at CogDroid from JB. > > Cool. JB will be happy and I hope he will push the rewrite of the event > model further. > > When one can buy a full quad core stick PC with 2G of RAM and 8G of > storage for less than $50, well, choice is clear. > > An old example: > http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/mini-pcs/mk808-android-mini-pc > > That's where I want Pharo to run. > > Phil > > >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:09 AM, p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be> >> wrote: >> >>> Pharo on iPad. >>> >>> http://youtu.be/7MNsUiCc5FQ >>> Le 10 déc. 2014 21:26, "dboeren" <boer...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> >>> Now that my image is working properly again and the fires have been put >>>> out, >>>> I wanted to introduce myself a bit better... >>>> >>>> My name is David Boeren. I first learned Smalltalk back in college many >>>> years ago, we used Smalltalk V in an object oriented programming class I >>>> took which was first-half Smalltalk, second-half C++. This would be >>>> about >>>> 1992 I think? In recent years I've mainly been using Java, with >>>> occasional >>>> Python dabblings. I remember installing Squeak once or twice over the >>>> years, but to be honest it felt a bit clunky, perhaps this was just an >>>> early >>>> primitive version or whatever. >>>> >>>> Recently, I've been getting the itch to try out some different >>>> languages. I >>>> was kind of looking at Scala or Clojure, one co-worker suggested >>>> Erlang, and >>>> so forth. But after doing a brief review I ended up coming back to >>>> Smalltalk which even after all these years still stands right up with >>>> the >>>> cutting edge I think. Sure, there are a few things that I think would >>>> be a >>>> little different if it were designed today like tuple support or >>>> whatever, >>>> but it feels like the right choice for something I'm going to use >>>> mainly for >>>> "fun" projects and the interactive environment is awesome. >>>> >>>> >>>> One thing I wanted to ask about is the status of getting Pharo running >>>> on >>>> iOS (or at least iPad). I found some old posts but nothing much within >>>> the >>>> last couple of years. I know there were app store policy issues in the >>>> past >>>> but I think that Apple has opened things up a bit since then, you can >>>> now >>>> get Pythonista in the app store, or Codea. Is there still an obstacle >>>> or is >>>> it just something that hasn't been gotten around to yet? I'd love to >>>> get it >>>> running on my iPad Mini and be able to transmit code back and forth >>>> between >>>> there and my laptop to work on it wherever I'm at. >>>> >>>> >>>> Second, I'm running into an oddity and I'm not sure what I'm doing >>>> wrong or >>>> whether this is a bug of some sort, this has to do with trying to >>>> replace >>>> unicode characters in a string which seems like it should be a >>>> straightforward operation. Here is my code: >>>> >>>> "Fetch the raw JSON data from dtdb.co" >>>> response := 'http://dtdb.co/api/cards/' asUrl retrieveContents >>>> asString. >>>> >>>> "Clean up the data a bit to make it a little more regular" >>>> response := response copyReplaceAll: 'null' with: '""'. >>>> response := response copyReplaceAll: '\u2022' with: ','. >>>> response := response copyReplaceAll: '\u009e' with: 'e'. >>>> >>>> Basically I'm just pulling some JSON data and then doing a few string >>>> replacements to make the data suit my needs. The first one works. The >>>> second one works. Since the third one ALSO uses a \uXXXX code I would >>>> expect it to work too, but it does not - the accented characters are >>>> still >>>> there. >>>> >>>> To get a bit more visibility into this, I copied the CopyReplaceAll code >>>> from SequenceableCollection into a scratch class method and adding some >>>> Transcript output: >>>> >>>> copyReplaceIn: aString All: oldSubCollection with: newCollection >>>> "Answer a copy of the receiver in which all occurrences of >>>> oldSubCollection have been replaced by newCollection " >>>> >>>> | startSearch currentIndex endIndex | >>>> >>>> Transcript show: 'start' ; cr. >>>> startSearch := 1. >>>> [(currentIndex := aString indexOfSubCollection: oldSubCollection >>>> startingAt: startSearch) > 0] >>>> whileTrue: [ >>>> Transcript show: 'Found at index ' ; show: >>>> currentIndex ; cr. >>>> endIndex := currentIndex + oldSubCollection >>>> size - 1. >>>> aString := aString >>>> copyReplaceFrom: currentIndex >>>> to: endIndex >>>> with: newCollection. >>>> startSearch := currentIndex + >>>> newCollection size]. >>>> Transcript show: 'done' ; cr. >>>> ^ aString >>>> >>>> A minimal test seemed to work: >>>> HelloWorld copyReplaceIn: 'R\u00e9my Lapointe' All: '\u00e9' with: 'e'. >>>> >>>> start >>>> Found at index 2 >>>> done >>>> >>>> Testing this with the real data worked too: >>>> HelloWorld copyReplaceIn: ('http://dtdb.co/api/cards/' asUrl >>>> retrieveContents asString) All: '\u00e9' with: 'e'. >>>> start >>>> Found at index 22379 >>>> Found at index 22500 >>>> done >>>> >>>> >>>> However, when I went back to using the regular copyReplaceAll:With: >>>> method >>>> it does not work and I'm not sure why. When it executes this: >>>> aString indexOfSubCollection: oldSubCollection startingAt: startSearch >>>> >>>> The value comes back as 0 even though it's the same data from >>>> 'http://dtdb.co/api/cards/' asUrl retrieveContents asString (I added a >>>> "self >>>> halt" to be able to step into the method and view the variable values), >>>> and >>>> I'm not sure what the difference is. There shouldn't be a limit on the >>>> size >>>> of the collection, should there? The whole thing is around 116k which >>>> is >>>> big but not ridiculously so. It is however big enough that the debugger >>>> can't show the whole value, or at least I haven't found a way to do so. >>>> >>>> >>>> And last, is there a good video tutorial for the Pharo beginner on how >>>> to >>>> use the various browsers, debugger, tools, etc... that come with >>>> Pharo? I >>>> would like to start learning more about the best ways to use these in my >>>> development processes. I'm also having a lot of trouble finding the >>>> correct >>>> classes and message for what I want to do, searching online w/ Google >>>> often >>>> seem to turn up outdated information (or for a different smalltalk >>>> flavor) >>>> and it can take a while to figure out the correct way to do things. Is >>>> there a good central reference for the APIs somewhere? I know that you >>>> can >>>> search in the browser but I usually don't know the name to search for. >>>> It >>>> would be good to have a handy reference detailing how to do all the >>>> commonplace stuff. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://forum.world.st/New-Pharo-user-some-questions-tp4795325.html >>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > > > -- > --- > Philippe Back > Visible Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 > Mail:p...@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu > Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback > Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium > > Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ > Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - > http://spamcast.libsyn.com > Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value > Added Reseller > > > > -- --- Philippe Back Visible Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:p...@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller
