To understand better the Pharo "philosophy", I would advocate Pharo by example, which helped me a lot to understand how I can display objects in the transcript with
Transcript show: (8*7) or to know more of the object with (8*7) inspect (actually I know this not from the book because Hilaire tought me this, but afterwards I found it inside the book and there I learned much much more) Alain On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goub...@gmail.com > wrote: > Hi Hans, > > I would not hesitate to state that in the Smalltalk vision, we should make > no difference between a user and a programmer: a user has the right to be a > programmer. > > Today, in academic circles, we call that "end-user programming" if you > need more references (:)). > > If you take some of the best known examples of Pharo, you'll see that they > are empowerment tools: they are designed to unleash a maximum amount of > power by helping you reach complex goals a lot faster than usual. Look for > Moose, Roassal, Seaside. > > Still, you can do sample, autonomous applications. For example, Phratch is > at http://www.phratch.com/; DrGeo is at http://www.drgeo.eu/. > > You can start an application by opening it in a window (i.e. look for an > open method). With a few more lines, you can open it fullscreen to hide the > IDE (have to get back to work to give you those lines :)). With a bit more > work, you can have it running from the command line. > > But remember, Pharo / Smalltalk is a live environment, not a compile and > run my app kind of old stuff (and very old, given that Smalltalk itself is > already old stuff). > > Have fun in your journey in Smalltalk :) > > Thierry > > Le 28/10/2014 13:36, Hans Schueren a écrit : > > Thank you Thierry , >> >> >> guess i am an user. >> >> >> " I have heared there are Pharo programmers" >> >> >> Can i download such a program to see how good they are ? >> >> >> I dont want to hear anything about coding and IDE and development. >> >> >> I am a user and want to start a example program. >> >> >> >> Do you have a LINK for me to download ? >> >> >> >> Hans >> >> >> This sounds strange. >> >> However , i have here a huge range of books about smalltalk 80. >> >> All the books describe the syntax and system. >> >> To write a better and better code and more functions. >> >> The only thing that is not describes is to display a running program >> inside image. >> >> The keywords and methods to display and save the own code inside the >> packages in the >> >> form of "image out" a manipulated smalltalk image to run as a user >> program. >> >> The first step is a really really simple program like mathematic >> calculation etc. >> >> But the procedure of end product must be clear. >> >> Only one good example perhaps with a transcript display can overcome >> theese difficulties. >> >> Its all unclear : >> >> show Transcript >> >> openInWorld >> >> class new class >> >> >> Theese commands are messages to a object. >> >> But the user does not input any program code. This is automatic running. >> >> Anyway , if the Pharo.exe started the image in the program. >> How , and with what keyword is then the program started fullscreen - >> which World is invoked to display? >> >> This preparation point is unclear when i want to make my "Allready >> written program" ready to start. >> >> >> >> However , i make a break with smalltalk now. >> >> A few books are still ordered from USA. >> >> If this point is unclear i cannot learn further at this point. >> >> It makes no sense to write Packages and classes if i cannot invoke the >> running arrangements >> No matter if they are objects or others. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >