To understand better the Pharo "philosophy", I would advocate Pharo by
example, which helped me a lot to understand how I can display objects in
the transcript with

Transcript show: (8*7)

or to know more of the object with

(8*7) inspect

(actually I know this not from the book because Hilaire tought me this, but
afterwards I found it inside the book
 and there I learned much much more)

Alain

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goub...@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi Hans,
>
> I would not hesitate to state that in the Smalltalk vision, we should make
> no difference between a user and a programmer: a user has the right to be a
> programmer.
>
> Today, in academic circles, we call that "end-user programming" if you
> need more references (:)).
>
> If you take some of the best known examples of Pharo, you'll see that they
> are empowerment tools: they are designed to unleash a maximum amount of
> power by helping you reach complex goals a lot faster than usual. Look for
> Moose, Roassal, Seaside.
>
> Still, you can do sample, autonomous applications. For example, Phratch is
> at http://www.phratch.com/; DrGeo is at http://www.drgeo.eu/.
>
> You can start an application by opening it in a window (i.e. look for an
> open method). With a few more lines, you can open it fullscreen to hide the
> IDE (have to get back to work to give you those lines :)). With a bit more
> work, you can have it running from the command line.
>
> But remember, Pharo / Smalltalk is a live environment, not a compile and
> run my app kind of old stuff (and very old, given that Smalltalk itself is
> already old stuff).
>
> Have fun in your journey in Smalltalk :)
>
> Thierry
>
> Le 28/10/2014 13:36, Hans Schueren a écrit :
>
>  Thank you Thierry ,
>>
>>
>> guess i am an user.
>>
>>
>> " I have heared there are Pharo programmers"
>>
>>
>> Can i download such a program to see how good they are ?
>>
>>
>> I dont want to hear anything about coding and IDE and development.
>>
>>
>> I am a user and want to start a example program.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have a LINK for me to download ?
>>
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>>
>> Hans
>>
>>
>> This sounds strange.
>>
>> However , i have here a huge range of books about smalltalk 80.
>>
>> All the books describe the syntax and system.
>>
>> To write a better and better code and more functions.
>>
>> The only thing that is not describes is to display a running program
>> inside image.
>>
>> The keywords and methods to display and save the own code inside the
>> packages in the
>>
>> form of "image out" a manipulated smalltalk image to run as a user
>> program.
>>
>> The first step is a really really simple program like mathematic
>> calculation etc.
>>
>> But the procedure of end product must be clear.
>>
>> Only one good example perhaps with a transcript display can overcome
>> theese difficulties.
>>
>> Its all unclear :
>>
>> show Transcript
>>
>> openInWorld
>>
>> class new class
>>
>>
>> Theese commands are messages to a object.
>>
>> But the user does not input any program code.  This is automatic running.
>>
>> Anyway , if the Pharo.exe started the image in the program.
>> How , and with what keyword is then the program started fullscreen -
>> which World is invoked to display?
>>
>> This preparation point is unclear when i want to make my "Allready
>> written program" ready to start.
>>
>>
>>
>> However , i make a break with smalltalk now.
>>
>> A few books are still ordered from USA.
>>
>> If this point is unclear i cannot learn further at this point.
>>
>> It makes no sense to write Packages and classes if i cannot invoke the
>> running arrangements
>> No matter if they are objects or others.
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