Do you really mean that the board is a kind of jerks and idiots that are
lazy bastards?
Please slow down, I never, ever, suggested even remotely that.
I know but do not say that the board is not interested. We just issue
today a roadmap to inria and database is one of the items.
If people that have interest in ORM do not help us how can make progress.
When did you send a fix to Pharo? Remember Pharo is Yours.
I use it daily for my business, which on some aspects of its
technology stack like DB feels more like a bet than a safe decision.
???
I submitted a few commits to GLORP and PostgresV2 packages, does that count?
Yes it does. This is important.
Esteban is working like a mad on making sure that Spur is coming to us.
May be we can say to esteban to stop Spur and 64 bits after and some
VM bug fix and support for integrating better and ....
to focus on Glorp and DBTalk.
I know, and I understand the priorities given the limited manpower.
That's why I mentioned I was making no demands, I was simply giving my opinion.
Ok
Sept 30, subject "Better ORM tools/alternatives"
I will check. Too busy with something else.
I'm making no demands here, just giving my opinion about a "business
feature" (DBs) that I'd like better supported.
This is on our roadmap.
Not in https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-workingRoadmaps.
No these ones are just random notes about what we should not forget.
Like cleaning the huge mess in Fonts that produced mess in Roassal and
Moose.
May pythoners are cooler than Pharoers when it comes to helping write code
and documentation?
I have no idea, I don't participate in any Python community.
But please consider that accusing me (or anybody) of treating you as
jerks or suggesting that if I don't send fixes I shouldn't emit
opinions is totally discouraging.
OK I was in attacking mode.
I know you're passionate and you live&love Pharo, and hence you speak
that way, and I can understand that, but even if I understand who, how
and why you're saying something it somehow hurts the feeling of
belonging to the community (to which I feel part of).
Ok I will be nicer in the future.
But my point is that the best way to help you is to start on what is
important for you and try to make it work better.
We can offer jenkins servers, disc space and some help but we cannot do
everything.
Stef
