On 30 May 2014, at 08:00, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Installing Alien proved to be quite a challenge... but I managed!

why? configuration should work out of the box. 

> 
> Now I got an instance of ObjectiveCAlien that (I think) represents some kind 
> of dock object, but I don't really know what to do with it...
> 
> Here's what I have:
> 
> #NSApplication inObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile
> 
> What kind of methods does this take? I see ObjectiveCAlien is a proxy, so I 
> can't really browse what messages can I send it. Any hints?


you can browse the Cocoa documentation (I use http://appkido.com but you need 
xcode installed and docs intalled too). 

Esteban

> 
> Thanks!!!
> Bernat.
> 
> 
> 2014-05-27 15:44 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com>:
> OK! I'll try that!
> 
> You sure deserve some credit in the Snap4Arduino MacOSX version... ;)
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> Bernat.
> 
> 
> 2014-05-27 15:32 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> On 27 May 2014, at 10:13, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mariano,
>> 
>> Thanks, I used this method, but my problem is I do need an icon in the dock 
>> :)
>> 
>> I'm using Pharo as a server, and I'd need the user to be able to stop it 
>> without any command-line knowledge.
>> 
>> Esteban, I'll try with Alien. I'm curious though, doesn't NativeBoost 
>> replace Alien now?
> 
> yes, but the ObjC bridge for NB is not working (yet, and until I found time 
> to do it :( ) 
> better to use the Alien FFI until then, so you can do something like: 
> 
> #NSApplication asObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile … (and etc.)
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> 
> Esteban
> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Bernat.
>> 
>> 
>> 2014-05-27 14:35 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianop...@gmail.com>:
>> Hi Bernat, 
>> 
>> About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch of 
>> Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember. 
>> I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello there,
>> 
>> For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless 
>> support in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming 
>> a legacy framework so people needed this. 
>> 
>> I wanted to thanks Square [i] International for sponsoring me to implement 
>> such a support. Not only have they sponsored the development but they have 
>> also agreed to release it under MIT license for the community. This headless 
>> support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, 
>> accessible to everybody.
>> 
>> The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I wanted 
>> to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This VM 
>> should only work starting at OSX 10.6.
>> 
>> How to use it?  Basically it works this way: to have headless, just edit the 
>> Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if it is not 
>> present):
>> 
>>  <key>LSBackgroundOnly</key>
>>  <true/>
>> 
>> When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting 
>> LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost 
>> mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put 
>> the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send -headless, the VM 
>> will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash 
>> bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the 
>> "flash" while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still 
>> couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation. 
>>  
>> How to test it? You should run the image with something like RFB or Seaside 
>> or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you 
>> areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside running 
>> in the port 5555. You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM 
>> withheadless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V
>> So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:5555, you 
>> should see that Seaside is running. 
>>   
>> I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which 
>> version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the 
>> better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have 
>> some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still 
>> couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :(
>>  
>> Expected results?  In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no 
>> window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching 
>> apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal.
>> 
>> Where is the code? The code I have modified to the VM is committed to my own 
>> fork of the VM: https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed
>> Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be 
>> integrated. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa 
>> <tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the dock?
>> 
>> In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the 
>> dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -- 
>> Bernat Romagosa.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mariano
>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Bernat Romagosa.
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> Bernat Romagosa.
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