Luc,

I think many people, if not most, including myself very much appreciate all the 
work that you and others have been doing behind the scenes. Thank you !

Things, even small ones, do not happen by themselves. Running an international 
organisation is not a small thing. ESUG certainly has a nice track record.

Sven

On 09 Feb 2014, at 17:26, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> ------------
> FACTS
> 
> As you all know, I am the ESUG treasurer.
> So please find the numbers attached for the ESUG support of GSOC projects in 
> 2013. 
> 
> ESUG sponsored 3 "extra-GSOC" meaning extra slots not accepted by Google.
> In the file it is: Alejandro Infante, Pablo Estefo and Benjamin Arezki.
> 
> All in all we paid:
> - 3695EUR (~5000USD at that time i.e. same cost as a regular GSOC) each 
> projects 
> - Serge trip to Mentor summit
> 
> And we received 5552EUR from Google
> 
> so yes we lost ~6582EUR
> That is easy 13*500 USD would only cover 1 plain extra-Gsoc and we 
> sponsorized 3.
> 
> I also think that it is important to send someone to the GSoc mentor summit 
> because it participates to the fact that Google recognizes ESUG ang gives 
> slots the next year.
> 
> It is alos important to note dates.
> ESUG paid first and then has been refund by Google. 
> It would not be possible to do it without ESUG.
> 
> ------------
> FROM HERE, MY POINT OF VIEW ON THIS STORY:
> 
> As some of you know, I doing the ESUG treasury stuff on my *own* time and it 
> takes a lot!
> I am doing it because I strongly believe that Smalltalk (all falvors!) is a 
> really great language that should be more widespread. 
> 
> I also completely open to discussions.
> The ESUG board can also explain its actions and even money status.
> I can do errors too.
> So if Janko wants some details on GSOC related money, JUST ASK!
> 
> I cannot admit that:
> 
> - Janko wrote about some money accusation. This is directly directed against 
> the treasurer so me. 
> And honestly, just reading again that I am biased and that I hide or steal 
> money make me think that I should better quit.
> 
> - Janko asked for apologies! what is that? even if I would have done a 
> mistake (and ESUG did not loose money), YOU STILL MUST THANK ME for DOING 
> THIS BORING TASK!  and then I can correct mistakes if any
> 
> - People wants an answer fast, this conversation started yesterday and I am 
> spending my week-end with my kids
> 
> 
> I am really fed up with this kind of attitude.
> Stop accuse, better ask, discuss and we will solve the problems together if 
> any.
> But I think it will never happen...
> 
> #Luc
> The disgusted Treasurer of ESUG who will finish his week-end in bad mood
> 
> 
> <2013-GsocSupportFromESUG.pdf>


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