On Jan 10, 2014, at 5:30 PM, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jannik, > > Thanks, that's all we needed! :) > > Sorry, I missed the email to the phratch list, otherwise I'd have written > there in the first place. No problem ;) Jannik > > Cheers, > Bernat. > > > 2014/1/10 jannik laval <jannik.la...@gmail.com> > Dear Bernat, > > I will be happy to add something about Scat on the website (I already added a > sentence to fix this issue). > Now, we can probably do better together. > > I am sorry for this omission, I made the google code page too fast and I have > to do it better (It is on my todo list !). > > You can also contact us on the phratch mailing-list: phra...@googlegroups.com > > Cheers, > Jannik > > > > > 2014/1/10 Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> > You are right, Bernat: in open source we build on an immense amount of work > done by many developers all over the world and we should always recognise > that properly, that is only fair. > > At least for me, I contribute to open source just because I am grateful for > what I received and I want to give something back. > > Open source software is a prime example of planet wide human collaboration as > it should be. > > Hopefully your request will be heard by those who can fix the (probably > unintentional) omission. > > Sven > > On 10 Jan 2014, at 16:52, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm not sure this is the proper place to discuss this, but I just felt I > > had to write it down. > > > > I've just been taking a look at the Phratch GoogleCode site and I've > > noticed there is not a single mention of where the project comes from... As > > an opposite example, when Phratch started out a couple years ago, we were > > really fast and careful to put out a notice in the Scat site letting people > > know that the project had been taken over by another team. > > > > We spent months filing out code from Scratch -a Squeak 2.8 image with > > barely any tools available-, we fixed hundreds of issues, we recorded > > screenshots, we documented every step we followed, we implemented a way to > > save and load projects via Fuel, we got the original Scratch media plugins > > to work, etc. but there is no mention of any of this anywhere. > > > > The amount of work we put in the -unfortunately named- Scat project is > > huge. We spent more than a year (even some 3-4 months full-time) in it, and > > I don't think it's egocentric at all to ask for a little recognition of who > > were the people behind the original project and what was the state of Scat > > when the Phratch team took over. > > > > I don't mean to sound angry, I'm not. I'm sure no information was omitted > > in bad faith, but recognition of other people's work is something I take > > very seriously. > > > > :) > > > > Best, > > Bernat. > > > > -- > > Bernat Romagosa. > > > > > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > École des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > > > > > -- > Bernat Romagosa.