Hi Norbert, ooh sorry, it was absolutely NOT my intention to critisize your explanation I wanted to say it is complicated for my small brain ;-) I am very happy about your quick answer which helped me finding a solution for my problem!!! sorry!
This was the post FROM Johan about the documentation: http://forum.world.st/Cleaning-up-Voyage-Documentation-td4723834.html LOL now, after writing the answer I understand the joke ;-) (of Johan, from johan) Sabine On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Norbert Hartl [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4725590...@n4.nabble.com> wrote: > > Am 27.11.2013 um 14:05 schrieb Sabine Knöfel <[hidden > email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4725590&i=0> > >: > > Hi Norbert, > > thank you very much for the clarification. > > I had to read it several times but now I understand and I know what to > change in my model for this (something with references to objects which > have been deleted by the user). > > Yep, it _is_ a horrible explanation but the only one I can come up in a > short timeframe :) Making it easily readably and clear would talk some more > time. > > Perhaps your answer is also interesting for the documentation of Johan. > > Uh? I’ve never seen a documentation about Johan. That is a nice idea! I > was always thinking about how to use him! > > Norbert > > Greets > Sabine > > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Norbert Hartl [via Smalltalk] <<a > href="x-msg://256/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4725585&i=0" > target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]> wrote: > >> >> Am 27.11.2013 um 13:20 schrieb Sabine Knöfel <[hidden >> email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4725577&i=0> >> >: >> >> > Hi Esteban, all, >> > >> > I work with mongo daily an it works fine, I am very happy with it. >> > >> > As you told me, with >> >>> VORepository current reset. >> > I can force re loading all objects from database and resetting the cache >> >> > completely. >> > This is helpful for development eg. after changing the magritte >> > descriptions. >> > >> Indeed. You need to flush/reset the repository in order to have new >> descriptions to take effect. >> >> > My question: >> > Is there a possibility to make a query and tell voyage that THIS query >> > should be done within the database and NOT within the cached objets? And >> >> > that all objects and the child objects from this query are loaded >> freshly >> > from database into the cache. >> > >> All queries go to the database. The cache is just used at resolve time. >> And it is necessary to have identical objects. Meaning you query the >> database directly and then objects are materialized. If the object is >> already in the cache the cached one is returned. Otherwise you would lose >> identity because having two requests containing the same object as a result >> would lead to two objects instead of one. You could only load trees instead >> of a graph. >> >> > My concrete situation: >> > I want that if the user logs in, his objects are loaded from database >> and >> > NOT from cache. This means the person, his trips etc. >> > >> > And the question coming along with this: >> > How long does the cache keeps objects/when are they reseted (except the >> >> >>> VORepository current reset)? >> > If I would never take a new image and never make a reset, would all >> objects >> > remain in the image (and the database objects wold never be read)? In >> this >> > case what about the size of the image? >> > >> I’m not sure on this one. I think the cache does not clean anything. The >> thing about being able to load a graph I wrote above has also the >> constraint that all loaded objects that are still participating in the >> active graph need to be in the cache. But then the cache is a weak >> dictionary meaning that all objects leaving the active graph are removed >> from the cache (well at GC time, I think) >> Norbert >> >> > Regards >> > Sabine >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Mongo-cache-vs-database-objects-tp4725554.html >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion >> below: >> >> http://forum.world.st/Mongo-cache-vs-database-objects-tp4725554p4725577.html >> To start a new topic under Pharo Smalltalk Users, email <a >> href="x-msg://256/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4725585&i=1" >> target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email] >> To unsubscribe from Mongo cache vs database objects, click here. >> NAML<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> >> > > > ------------------------------ > View this message in context: Re: Mongo cache vs database > objects<http://forum.world.st/Mongo-cache-vs-database-objects-tp4725554p4725585.html> > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list > archive<http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> > at Nabble.com <http://nabble.com/>. > > > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://forum.world.st/Mongo-cache-vs-database-objects-tp4725554p4725590.html > To start a new topic under Pharo Smalltalk Users, email > ml-node+s1294792n1310670...@n4.nabble.com > To unsubscribe from Mongo cache vs database objects, click > here<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&node=4725554&code=c2FiaW5lLmtub2VmZWxAZ21haWwuY29tfDQ3MjU1NTR8MTA0OTM5MTYx> > . > NAML<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml&base=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace&breadcrumbs=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Mongo-cache-vs-database-objects-tp4725554p4725597.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
