On 12 Nov 2013, at 23:07, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > Currently I am working on Hyperion a vector graphics editor with similar > goals to inkscape and gimp . The second step will be to use Hyperion as a GUI > designer, not just to drag and drop ready made widgets but to design from > scratch new ones. The third step is to create a GUI api so that those widgets > will be accessed from code via a GUI API that I have named Morpheas. The > forth step is to take all that and redesign the look (just the look not the > internals) of Pharo making it more user friendly and approachable including > several tools into a project I have named Ephestos.
This sounds like a really cool battle plan :) I sincerely wish you to succeed in your project :) > I like the general idea of everything being a morph a simple building block > that allows you to build complex , custom guis. I am also thinking providing > a super simple GUI API and offering sophisticated widgets as external > libraries. In sort my goal is minimalism and customisation. > > All of this will be based on Athens which is what I already use for > Hyperion. > > This is the final look that aiming for to offer as a default look , but of > course because it will be based on Athens and will offer a powerful designer > any look will be possible. > > http://vimeo.com/68113915 > > Currently I just started Hyperion and I work at creating lines with Athens > and editing them graphically like inkscape. I hope that after 6 months to > finish the basic vector graphic editing capabilities and move to GUI design > so that by 2015 I have version 1 to offer that will be able to do both. Of > course this will be a way more long term project than just one year but for > now I take it step by step , day by day and see where it takes me. > > Because it is based on Athens I can bypass spec and even morphic completely > and offer my own GUI API, however that will make it hard for people already > having projects in those APIs to move to mine and since spec looks like the > future of Pharo I am seriously considering spec as well. It will also save me > the trouble of designing my own GUI API which is of course a big plus. My own > concern is how morphic friendly spec is, meaning that I want to see > everything as a composition of simpler elements and not monolithic widgets. > From what I have seen from some tutorials this seems to be the direction you > go with this, but maybe you could illuminate that area abit more for me. > The idea of Spec (and the direction I want to give him now) is to be framework independent, in a way one can plug any framework below as long as the correct adapters are provided :) So if you implement the basic widgets, then you should be able to compose them using Spec :) > > I will also be interested to hear where you want to take spec, what you will > like to add etc. I think that some widgets are missing but not that much anymore :) So I think the next steps are bug fixes and documentation :) Ben > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Benjamin > <benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> wrote: > What is exactly your goal ? :) > > Ben > > On 12 Nov 2013, at 20:46, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> yeah morphic is quite messy , but hey it works >> >> Thank you for your effort to bring us a better , cleaner and simpler GUI >> API. You have my support. I am actually thinking about implementing my own >> GUI API and I was wondering if I should base it on spec or not. My main >> focus is custom look guis. But I will wait for the documentation of spec to >> appear before I make any decision on it. >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Benjamin >> <benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 12 Nov 2013, at 19:53, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> hahahaha nicely played man , nicely played :D >>> >>> of course I will , but so you know, I dont pay overtime ... now I think >>> about it, I dont pay at all, but thats another matter . >>> >>> I would love to see tab in Nautilus , they will definitely sort the windows >>> mess. At least partly. >> >> Me too :) >> That’s why I am writing a new one (made with Spec) >> >> Otherwise, in full morphic, you will see the pain it is :P >> >> Ben >> >>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Benjamin >>> <benjamin.vanryseghem.ph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> The easier way is to wait for me to finish the new Nautilus with tabs in it >>> :P >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On 12 Nov 2013, at 17:50, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I see in the top right side dropdown menu that there is an option to >>>> create a window goup which basically add the current instance of Nautilus >>>> in a tab but I dont know hot to add other tabs to it. It would be cool to >>>> have multiple tabs for each class selection and not to have to open a new >>>> window for each one. >>>> >>>> So how I add other tabs ? >>> >>> >> >> > >
