On Sep 4, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:

> 
> Am 04.09.2013 um 01:13 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com>:
> 
>> 
>> On Sep 4, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 09/03/2013 12:25 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>> If you do not give us more information we will never be able to fix it. 
>>>> And may be 3.0 will still have the problem and you will start using system 
>>>> that is 3 year old. 
>>>> I can understand that you get in a situation where you cannot do otherwise 
>>>> but do not expect 
>>>> us to fix magically things.
>>>> 
>>>> Stef
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Stef,
>>> 
>>> For reporting the RFB issue I made a thread
>>> (http://forum.world.st/How-do-diagnose-image-locks-up-cpu-100-on-save-td4704639.html)
>>> and uploaded a Pharo 2 image to dropbox where if you execute this code:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> RFBServer start
>>> Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: false
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The image locks up using the 'pharo' VM and works fine using eliots vm.
>>> The uploaded image is Pharo-20619 with only RFB loaded.
>> 
>> I will check this (after SUG)
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The other problem I had with Pharo 2 is the ever growing image size I
>>> reported here:
>>> 
>>> http://forum.world.st/development-image-memory-use-180MB-in-Pharo-2-vs-40MB-in-Pharo-1-4-tp4699207.html
>>> 
>>> I understand this is due to some leaks involving morphs and announcers
>>> and things that are fixed in pharo 3 but not pharo 2.
>>> 
>>> I have not gotten the impression that that fix will be backported, and
>>> even if it will it hasn't been yet so because of that and the RFB issue
>>> above I can't use Pharo 2 right now.
>> 
>> this is weird, because is the first time I see a report (well, I saw the 
>> other thread too) about this. 
>> and Pharo2 is productive since more than 8 months now (and I have some 
>> production stuff on it)... and I never seen it. 
>> This is likely not for the same reasons as pharo3 leaks (which btw are just 
>> partially solved, the leaks are still there). 
>> 
>> I would like to have that image to take a look, if possible, because is 
>> super-weird. 
>> 
>>> 
> I reported a similar problem. I'm doing a project for that I need to use 
> zinc, DBXTalk and RFB. Zinc provides a http interface which triggers a 
> database lookup. In my scenario I can save the image until the first request 
> is fired. Every image that will be saved later will bring up an empty window 
> and 100% CPU usage on reopening. I just had some time to track it down. I can 
> see this behavior on my mac laptop as well as on my linux server. I suspected 
> dbxtalk until Paul brought up the RFB case. But I need to spend more time for 
> tracking down the error or producing a reproducable image showing the effect.
> In all my other projects using zinc and RFB I didn't see the problem. But 
> then I don't save images in production. 

Norbert, I was talking about the "inflation" problem in that paragraph, not the 
RFB hang... can you confirm it?
And well, yes RFB+Zinc+DBXTalk can be a combination to look... a lot of 
FFI/Plugin interaction there (specially if using Zodiac).

Esteban

> 
> Norbert
> 
>>> Hope this helps and thanks for following up
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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