On Aug 6, 2013, at 8:50 PM, kmo <vox...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the help.
> 
> As far as I can see the guide to setting it up is simply to copy the pulse
> audio plugin from Squeak into the Pharo folder.
> 
> I have tried this and SoundPlayer boinkScale now actually works! This is
> further than I've ever got so many thanks.
> 
> However, FMSound organ1 play does not work. Nor does the SoundDemoMorph.
> 
> But I'm not really worried. I'm only playing about. 
> 
> But it does worry me that we have a PharoSound in the configuration browser
> that does not play sound.

When I load the configuration on 
        20
        30 alpha

I have sound on my machine.
So do you know how heavy is to have to test on 5 different OSes with several 
versions of linuxes?

We have a test-farm (and we could do much better) but I requested an engineer 
to work on the package
certifications to put in place the infrastructure we need but it was rejected. 
So no money and
I do not have a money making machine. 

> I think that if Pharo wants to attract developers
> it is important not to have anything that does not work in the approved list
> of add-ons.

We know. Do you think that the SmallLint meta data handling was done by 
accident?
Or the massive work on the integration server? Or the catalog we are working on.
No this is the vision we have: read the Pharo vision pdf.
Now no money means less work done. 


> The thing that put me off Squeak forever was that it came with hundreds of
> widgets and examples -  toys, and little apps - and many did not work and
> many more worked really badly.

I think that same.

> This is not a good impression to give if you
> want market share.

We are working on that. But we have too many customers and not enough people 
helping.

> Pharo actually looks drop-dead gorgeous. It's a stunning piece of software -
> do not ruin the effect by having something that doesn't work so near at hand
> and so tempting to install. 

We know. We share 100% this point of view. 


> A further point, if Pharo needs the pulse audio plugin to play sound, why is
> it not in the Pharo Linux package? Having to copy stuff from another product
> is really lame. 

Indeed. I think that the same but nothing is that easy.
If you want to help open a bug entry with the problem and tag it under VM.
And we will see. Now if linux people do not use sound and do not tell us we 
cannot know.

By the way there is no test in the SoundPackage so how can we are them on the 
headless server (because
the headless farm server may also have a sound disabled….)
So you see the devil is in the detail.


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