Hi,

On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:51 PM, "Dale K. Henrichs" 
<dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:

> Stef,
> 
> I haven't completely wrapped my brain around what SnapshotCello does so I 
> don't have an informed opinion ... the fact that you found a need to invent 
> SnapshotCello does speak volumes to the fact that there is a need that is 
> going unmet:).

What is not clear? I would be interested in describing our scenario in more 
details because I think this is a development pattern. But, I need some 
concrete questions to start from.

> However, I don't like the fact that you end up sending a non-spec message to 
> make this work (#populateSpec:with:). Tools like Versioner will not be able 
> to rewrite a method like this correctly so it is a less than satisfactory 
> workaround to the method literal limit.

I still do not understand why Versionner would be affected by the current 
versions given that we are only generating versions that should be immutable 
hence no need for management.

> With that said it _is_ performing a useful function ...
> 
> I have recently come up with an approach to addressing the method literal 
> limit from a slightly different angle and I would assume that SnapshotCello 
> could be recast to use this "approved approach" when the new techinique 
> becomes available. At that time it would make sense to roll the SnapshotCello 
> funtionality into the MetacelloToolBox...

Having a different way to store the information should be no problem. I am 
curious about your ideas.

Cheers,
Doru



> Dale
> 
> [1] http://forum.world.st/Loading-problem-in-Seaside-tp4699965p4700161.html
> ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.duca...@inria.fr>
> | To: "Moose-related development" <moose-...@iam.unibe.ch>
> | Cc: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>, 
> "Pharo Development List"
> | <pharo-...@lists.pharo.org>
> | Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:17:50 PM
> | Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello
> | 
> | Nice to see SnapshotCello coming to live. May be it should be
> | integrated to Metacello.
> | Because everybody may need this cool feature.
> | 
> | Stef
> | 
> | On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com>
> | wrote:
> | 
> | > Hi,
> | > 
> | > Stef and I developed Snapshotcello, a little utility that enables
> | > you to freeze a snapshot of a given configuration based on what is
> | > already loaded in your current image.
> | > 
> | > The idea is simple. You develop against the latest versions of all
> | > packages, and commit your changes for each package. When you are
> | > ready for a release, you assemble your image, and generate a
> | > snapshot version that can be reloaded later.
> | > 
> | > Here is an example of how it can work to take a snapshot of a
> | > development version:
> | > Snapshotcello new
> | >     configurationClass: ConfigurationOfMoose;
> | >     configurationVersion: #development;
> | >     publishVersion: '4.8-snapshot'
> | > 
> | > You can find more details here:
> | > 
> http://www.tudorgirba.com/blog/snapshotcello-take-a-snapshot-when-you-re-ready
> | > 
> | > You can get the code at:
> | > Gofer new
> | >     smalltalkhubUser: 'girba' project: 'Snapshotcello';
> | >     package: 'ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello';
> | >     load.
> | > (Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello)
> | > loadDevelopment
> | > 
> | > Cheers,
> | > Doru
> | > 
> | > --
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> | > 
> | > 
> | > 
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