So far, no windmill complained about "woke incursions". "Woke" is extremely clear vocabulary, only used by - let us get straight to the point and not waste our time - modern nazis.
So, perhaps you misused the word and should document yourself extensively on the subject. But your reply seems to point otherwise. And *you* are the one feeling hurt because we want to recognize that vocabulary has an impact on how we perceive and conceive things. What was that again about cowardise and virtue? :) It is something to cope as we can with an annoying technical situation, it is another thing to ask to not consider political views because they are "woke" (which only purpose is to deny their legitimity without arguing). Does the Pharo community support "anti-woke" argumentation? This needs to be clear so that I can decide to leave the community or not. Or perhaps, that is a misunderstanding. Steven. Le 2021-07-20 20:12, [email protected] a écrit : > Hi, > > it's „highly probably" somewhere in the territorry of poor understanding, but > I wouldn't blame language (don't pretend to be obtuse when you want to be > sneakily subversive). > > I explicitly stated that fighting against __actual__ slavery is better done > by other means / elsewhere. Fighting against percieved shadows („extreme > right vocabulary"; or nomenclature that never hurt no-one) is just divisive, > and counter-productive on a programming language mailing-list. > > You can't erase history, and that some words that had negative connotations > in the past are used for new, entirely unrelated purposes today is no wonder. > > As, of course, you can't be bothered to know, I'm member of one of those > nations called „Slavic" (.cz in my mail address). You know, you pretender, > nations who were enslaved so frequently that the word „slave" came from our > enslavement. Do I have a tendency to blame „heirs" of those who enslaved us > in the past ? Do I cringe every time the word slave is uttered ? Do you know > that some brainwashed individuals in our nation, in sync with todays > brainwashing, tried to push the narrative that we (our nation), were > colonizers as well ? > > NO. > > No-one is gonna make me feel like a victim (or an abuser) because of what > happened in the past, before my father was born, etc. > > Go fight you windmills, Don Q., I just hope the rest of the community won't > let themselves be pulled into it. > > M.R. > > FROM: Steven Costiou <[email protected]> > SENT: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 4:08 PM > TO: Pharo Development List <[email protected]> > CC: Rauš Miloslav <[email protected]> > SUBJECT: Re: [Pharo-dev] Re: Metacello / Iceberg / GitHub master to main > renaming > > Le 2021-07-19 16:54, [email protected] a écrit : > > Maybe it's worth putting something in an faq - that we support the intent of > the master to main naming convention > > That's pretty counter-productive. It would be just empty virtue-signalling > response to an empty virtue-signalling gesture (that of MS/Github pushing > master->main transition). > > The change would bring absolutely nothing to no-one (except a lot of needless > work/friction; and an inroad for future woke incursions). Whomever is having > problem with slavery can fight modern-day slavery in ie. Africa / China / etc > or sex trafficking in their own country. I'm a bit sorry if I misinterpret what you say because of my poor understanding of english. But I would answer that whomever having a problem with fighting slavery in general should leave the community. Anyone also using and supporting extreme right vocabulary (e.g. "woke") should leave the community. If that's trolling, all the same. If I misinterpreted (non-native english speaker), I am sorry, and probably you will agree with me and there is no need for dicussion. Steven. > I'd prefer either nothing in the FAQ, or finite statement to the tune of "no > wokeness, we are about merit and not about empty gestures". > > Of course I expect cowardice & virtue-signalling to win in the end, but at > least I tried. > M.R. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Mackinnon <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 1:14 PM > To: Pharo Development List <[email protected]> > Subject: [Pharo-dev] Re: Metacello / Iceberg / GitHub master to main renaming > > Maybe it's worth putting something in an faq - that we support the intent of > the master to main naming convention, but that as we are a small community > trying to improve many aspects of 50 years of development, this one had to > unfortunately take a back seat for the moment while we simplify other things > to make this an easier change? > > Tim > > On 19 Jul 2021, at 12:26, stephane ducasse <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sven > > From that perspective this master to main change will cost us a lot of > problem. > I decided to continue to configure all my repositories to use master > and I will do it for any repository that is related to pharo and that people > may use. Just to remove such kind of friction. > I would encourage people to do the same like that we do not have to think. > > S > > On 12 Jul 2021, at 14:32, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > For new GitHub projects the default branch is now main instead of master. > > There is however code in Metacello / Iceberg / ... that tries a number of > options if no branch is specified, but it is not yet aware of this change. > > Specifically: > > This does not work > > ./pharo reddit.image metacello install github://svenvc/Reddit > BaselineOfReddit > > instead you have to say > > ./pharo reddit.image metacello install github://svenvc/Reddit:main/ > BaselineOfReddit > > It took me half an hour to figure this out ;-) > > Sven
