Joshua D. Drake wrote: > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Based on our progress during this feature freeze, we will not complete > > the feature freeze until August/September. I think we need adjust > > expectations about an 8.3 release date, and decide if we want to > > radically change our work process. > > > > Basically, to make a release anywhere near July, we need 10x more > > progress than we have had, which is unlikely. > > Or we have another short release cycle, basically accepting what we have > now that can be worked through in the next 3 weeks and committed. If it > can't be done in that time, it waits. Then we have beta etc...
That is not fair to patch submitters, and pushes the problem to 8.4, where it will be no better. > > We could ship what is in CVS now, but that just pushes the patches for > > 8.4, and isn't fair to patch submitters. We could shove what we have > > now into CVS, but that is unwise. > > Sure it is, if we have a short release cycle. There are plenty of things > out there that are not quite ready yet, that could be if we released > again next January... Huh, you didn't answer my issue about unfair. > > The question is whether it is healthy for us to remain in feature freeze > > for months, and if it is unhealthy, what are our options? > > > > Patch status: > > > > http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/Todo:PatchStatus > > If... this is actually a problem (I leave to other committers and > reviewers to comment) then I suggest we push all patches without a > reviewer as of now to 8.4. > > Leaving only those patches that have confirmed reviewers to be worked > through. > > FYI, whoever did that Todo:Patch status, Bravo! That is easily one of > the smallest but best improvements to the process I have seen in recent > memory. Fairness and not pushing our problems out to the future --- address those issues. -- Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://www.enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq