"Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> My feeling is that we ought to bounce bitmap indexes and updatable views >> as not being ready, accept all the contrib stuff, and try to get the >> other items done in time for a beta at, say, the end of next week.
> I know there is a lot of "backend" work that has been done for 8.2 but > the two features you are suggesting we bounce, are probably the most > visible of marketable features we will have for this release. Especially > updateable views. Josh said nearly the same in core's discussion, but come now. The updateable-view patch (in its current form) does not offer *one single thing* you can't do today, indeed for many PG releases past; it just saves writing out some tedious rules. If that's the most marketable feature in 8.2 we're already in trouble. I don't think it is anyway. Looking at the CVS logs I see INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE RETURNING VALUES lists CREATE INDEX CONCURRENTLY pl/pgsql debugger (OK, not in core, but available) restartable WAL recovery constraint exclusion works on UPDATE/DELETE queries multiple-argument aggregate functions SQL2003-standard statistical aggregates COPY (SELECT ...) TO ... pg_dump selectivity options customizable timezone names GIN indexes FILLFACTOR for indexes and tables and that's just back to the beginning of July, so it probably represents about a quarter of the work that's gone into 8.2, but I got tired of reading the logs at that point. We have this discussion every single release cycle: "hey, if we wait X amount more time then we can have cool features Y and Z". But there's always another X, Y, and Z. More importantly, this view ignores the very real disadvantages of not getting already-finished cool features A through W out to our users sooner. regards, tom lane ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq