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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Merlin Moncure
> Sent: 12 avril 2006 12:22
> To: Neil Conway
> Cc: Tom Lane; David Fetter; Jim C. Nasby; Joshua D. Drake; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
> Subject: Re: [HACKERS] plpgsql by default
> 
> On 4/11/06, Neil Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 17:20 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > > No, I'm saying that having access to a PL renders certain 
> classes of 
> > > attacks significantly more efficient.  A determined attacker with 
> > > unlimited time may not care, but in the real world, security is 
> > > relative.
> >
> > That's a fair point.
> >
> > Perhaps a compromise would be to enable pl/pgsql by 
> default, but not 
> > grant the USAGE privilege on it. This would allow 
> superusers to define
> 


One way to circumvent the hassle of having to create 
the language is to create the database from a template 
that has the language , hence semi-default plpgsql handler
by "default".

On the security side, if you implement strong ACLS on the data
manipulation
if the database is compromised to a level where a low priviliged user
database access
is compromised there shouldn't be any danger toward having them using
SQL or plpgsql.

The dark side of this could be some type of privilege escalation scheme
present
inside postgresql.

As example MS-SQL xp_* stored proc, are a vulnerability vector if the
compromised user
can execute them.

So if by default the attacked application is running as the "postgres"
user, what will you do to
prevent them from manipulating internal's? :)

-elz

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