Mark,

> My frustration level often kills any desire to contribute to open
> source. Sometimes, I think that open source is doomed. The various
> projects I track and use are very frustrating, they remind me of
> dysfunctional engineering departments in huge companies, it is very hard
> to positively discuss any new ideas. The first response is always some
> variation on "no."

Well, if you weren't a regular I'd be more encouraging.  But you already 
know how things work here, so we can give you a hard time.    I'll point 
out the year-long argument over the newsysviews for the contributors, the 
two-year long process for 2PC, etc.  

Sometimes you can just throw stuff up on this forum and people will say 
"wow, cool, I could really use something that does that." and you're off 
and flying.  Other times, though, it's hard for people on this list to see 
how a vague proposal would be useful, so you need to have a prototype that 
*shows* how useful it is.  

As a parallel, I personally didn't see the utility of DTrace until I saw 
Brian Cantrell give a demo of the full feature set.  If you just read the 
spec, it's hard to see how it's an improvement over oprofile.

> Maybe it is that the whiteboard engineering discussion process doesn't
> translate well to this medium.

Nope.  

-- 
--Josh

Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

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