On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 02:22:15AM +1100, Gavin Sherry wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Tom Lane wrote: > > is that you have exclusive hold on the selected rows and they won't > > change underneath you before the end of your transaction. In the case > > of an outer join where the left-side row joined to nothing on the > > right-side, we can't guarantee that: repeating the SELECT might find a > > matching right-side row, thereby changing the allegedly-locked join row. > > To guarantee a stable view of the data, we'd need a predicate lock that > > prevents a matching right-side row from being inserted. > > Well.... we can guarantee that we wont see rows added by concurrent > transactions if we're in serializable isolation level :-).
Do we really need to prevent inserts from happening under a SELECT FOR UPDATE? ISTM that's trying to apply serializable concurrency to SELECT FOR UPDATE even if it's running in a read committed transaction. In the single table case we don't prevent someone from inserting a value... # session 1 decibel=# insert into t values('1'); INSERT 633175 1 # session 2 decibel=# begin; BEGIN decibel=# select * from t where t='1' for update; t --- 1 (1 row) # session 1 decibel=# insert into t values('1'); INSERT 633176 1 decibel=# select * from t; t --- 1 1 (2 rows) decibel=# update t set t='2'; # Blocks on session 2 Am I missing something here? -- Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pervasive Software http://pervasive.com work: 512-231-6117 vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf cell: 512-569-9461 ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly