On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 23:05, Robert Treat wrote: > On Thursday 22 April 2004 13:55, Barry Lind wrote: > > I think the solution lies in improving www.postgresql.org. At the end > > of the day it doesn't matter where source code lives, what matters is > > can people find what they are expecting. Given we know what people are > > looking for, that should be front and center on the web site and the ftp > > sites.
> But of course that solution always stalls out when it comes down to picking > which projects get the special treatment of direct links from the main > website and which ones stay out of the spotlight. With JDBC you might make Most end users don't care if they can choose between 20 administration interfaces. They want to know which one works the best and just use that. Guidelines: 1. Must be fully functional with new release of PostgreSQL on day of PostgreSQL release -- all features. (Admin programs should know how to create and manage all objects). 2. Must function across a majority of platforms that PostgreSQL supports. 3. Must be available for free. Something we could *and will* distribute via CD or could be installed by default. Likewise, source code must be available to ensure it does not become discontinued. 4. Must be high quality -- equivalent to that of PostgreSQL itself. 5. It should be something that a company selling PostgreSQL support would be willing to take on. 6. Must have demonstrated the above prior to inclusion on the download page (gone through a full cycle). 7. They must be willing to change the name to something generic. I.e. PostgreSQL Administration Interface or PostgreSQL Java Connector. In other-words, they need to be willing to be a part of the larger PostgreSQL community. If someone thinks that the JDBC drivers are broken, the JDBC folks should be open to debate on how to solve the issues or otherwise argue that there are no problems. Same as how PostgreSQL itself works. I really don't see this as being any different than deciding which buffer strategy or website style to use. One is better in some way so it becomes a part of the system. ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster