On 11/02/2015 02:41 PM, Simon Riggs wrote:
On 1 November 2015 at 07:47, Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us
<mailto:br...@momjian.us>> wrote:
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 01:27:13AM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 04:47:35AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Therefore, I caution people from viewing the Greenplum source
code as
> > you might see patented ideas that could be later implemented in
> > Postgres, opening Postgres up to increased patent violation
problems. I
> > am also concerned about existing community members who work for
> > Pivotal/Greenplum and therefore are required to view the
patented source
> > code. The license issue might eventually be improved by
> > Pivotal/Greenplum, but, for now, I think caution is necessary.
> >
> > Of course, never mention known-patented ideas in any community
forum,
> > including this email list.
>
> I just found out that Citus Data has patent applications pending, so
> viewing Citus Data source code has the same problems as Greenplum.
Actually, it might only be their closed source software that contains
patents, i.e. not pg_shard. I will check and report back when I can
unless someone else reports here first.
While you are doing that, please also check EnterpriseDB. My
information is that there are patents filed there, so we must check
that just as much as any other company or person. If you didn't know
before, you do now.
I am disappointed that your approach to this appears unbalanced and
partisan. Worse, Greenplum have been quite vocal about their
intentions, so any feedback you have could easily have been given many
months ago, not on the day of their announcement. I think you should
have declared this situation in a very different way to the way you
have approached this. 5 minutes thought on whether other companies
might also have been affected would have been sensible, plus the whole
thing could have been discussed completely offlist. If you do discuss
things on-list then you should at least state for the record that you
are an EnterpriseDB employee when discussing your concerns, since that
is likely to have a material affect on how this situation is viewed by
anyone worried by your post.
FWIW, Bruce has --for as long as I can remember-- always sent e-mail to
the list including a signature similar to the following:
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Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> http://momjian.us
EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com
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So I guess his affiliation with EnterpriseDB is pretty clear even
to outsiders just perusing the archives.
Others' interests are IMHO not nearly as clear from their e-mails'
contents, though.
(not that I have any particular voice/opinion on this matter anyway. I
am precluded from taking a look at any such release for the time being
for other reasons...)
I do thank you for all the time you devote to Postgres. All
community members' contributions are very much appreciated.
/ J.L.
