Vince, Peter: I can definitely understand someone not wanting to *participate* in marketing/advocacy of PostgreSQL. However, your being opposed to promoting PostgreSQL as an organized activity *at all* baffles me. How can you be against promoting PostgreSQL? Don't you want poeple to use your code?
For me, it's not just a matter of preference, but of necessity; if Postgres becomes obscure, I stop being able to participate in the project. While there are people on this list who are fortunate enough to be able to code whatever they want and still get paid, for a lot of people, our participation hinges on the cycle: Postgres Users --> Postgres Contracts --> Postgres Jobs --> Postgres Contributors --> Improvement *and Promotion* of Postgres --> Postgres Users ... The Promotion part of that step is *not* dispensable; all of the best features in the world are not going to expand the Postgres commmunity if people haven't heard of it, can't find it, and know a lot more about MySQL anyway. While this may not be true for everybody, some of us have clients or bosses who do read trade periodicals and demand that we follow their technology reccomendations. I already have one client using MySQL because of MySQL's "much more professional" web site and "better support" and "better performance". Frankly, if we blow off marketing PostgreSQL as "irrelevant", we *deserve* to get steamrollered by MySQL. I think it's terrific that Postgres is a real, programmer-centric, democratic Open Source project. I believe that programmers and contributors should lead the project, and decide features and schedules based on technical and not marketing reasons. Nobody on the Advocacy team is trying to take control of the project and turn it into a dot-com. But once Postgres has been packaged, we need to have a group making a loud enough noise to get the world to pay attention. I'm not asking everyone on this list to participate, but I am asking everyone on this list to recognize the utility of the effort. -Josh Berkus ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED])