Lamar Owen wrote:
However, I seriously question the need in the long term for our sites to be as fractured as they are. Good grief! We've got advocacy.postgresql.org, techdocs.postgresql.org, odbc.postgresql.org, gborg.postgresql.org, developer.postgresql.org, jdbc.postgresql.org, etc. Oh, and we also have www.postgresql.org on the side? I think not. Oh, and they are fractured in their styles -- really, guys, we need a unified style here.I'd love to see this happen. From reading the messages here, it sounds like the perception is that marketing == spouting bullshit. I don't believe that's true. I think having an informative, up-to-date, stylistically consistent website would do a tremendous amount of good.
The JDBC one is a particularly bad example right now - it doesn't fit in with any of the rest of the site and its most prominent link is to a completely out-of-date list of compliance tests the driver fails. The driver may have its flaws but it's a lot better than presented there.
IMHO these things make a difference to technical people as well as suits. If that site and the MySQL JDBC driver's site were my first impressions, I would be using MySQL.
The JDBC site is certainly not the only one with flaws. The main website has this paragraph in <http://www15.us.postgresql.org/related.html>:
For encrypted postgresql connections, Brett McCormick
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) has made a patch for PostgreSQL
version 6.3.2 using SSL. Visit his info page for more information.
That's horribly obselete. In fact, I think a lot of the related projects are. That's only two clicks away from the main page.
I'm volunteering to do work here. I could at the very least go through the sites and make a longer list of things like this that I notice. If they are public CVS somewhere, I can send patches. I saw that there's a <http://wwwdevel.postgresql.org/>. What's going on with that? Is there anything I can do to speed up its adoption? How will it affect the rest of the sites?
Is this list the appropriate place to discuss the websites? or should I take it to -advocacy? My impression here is that the two sites are maintained separately and the people involved haven't interacted very much. Is that accurate or no?
Thanks,
Scott
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