Hello,

Would you be okay if there is one/a few effective create/drop (some tests
check that the create or drop fails e.g. depending on permissions, which
ISTM is not tested anywhere else), so that tests for various ALTER
DATABASE commands are combined together onto these databases?

TBH, I do not see that such tests are worth adding, if they are going to
significantly slow down the core regression tests.  Those tests are run
probably hundreds of times a day, in aggregate across all Postgres
developers.  Adding ten seconds or whatever this would add is a major
cost, while the benefit appears trivial.

We could consider adding expensive low-value tests like these to some
alternate regression target that's only exercised by buildfarm members,
perhaps.  But I think there's probably a point of diminishing returns
even in that context.

I'm not sure that the tests are "low value", because a commit that would generate a failure on a permission check test would be a potential security issue for Pg.

My personal experience in other contexts is that small sanity checks help avoid blunders at a small cost. It is also worthwhile to have significant functional tests, such as replication and so on...

As for the cost, if the proposed tests are indeed too costly, what is not necessarily the case for what I have seen, I do not think that it would be a great problem to have two set of tests, with one a superset of the other, with some convention.

It is enough that these tests are run once in a while to raise an alert if need be, especially before a release, and not necessarily on every "make check" of every developer in the world, so that we get some value at very low cost. So, as you suggest implicitely, maybe "make check" and "make longcheck" or make "shortcheck" in the test infrastructure would do the trick?

--
Fabien.


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