On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 01:08:27PM +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Abhijit Menon-Sen <a...@2ndquadrant.com> > wrote: > > At 2013-01-16 02:07:29 -0500, t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote: > >> > >> In case you hadn't noticed, we've totally lost control of > >> the CF process. > > > > What can we do to get it back on track? > > Not sure. One start might be to actually start having commitfest > managers. I haven't actually checked numbers, but my feeling is that > last round most commitfests (maybe not all) had a commitfest manager > that worked (usually hard) at keeping things moving, whereas this > round most (or all?) commitfests have been unmanaged. I'm not sure if > that's the reason for it, but it's a feeling I have..
Agreed. > > I want to help, but I don't know what's wrong. What are the committers > > working on, and what is the status of the "Ready for commiter" patches? > > Is the problem that the patches marked Ready aren't, in fact, ready? Or > > is it lack of feedback from authors? Or something else? > > I'm not one of the committers that pick up the most patches, but from > reading messages on the lists I think fairly often patches that are > marked as ready, aren't. Sometimes they require a small change, which > is fine, but more often than not once it hits a committer it ends up > with a lot of feedback requiring rather extensive changes. That's an intrinsic hazard of non-committer reviews. All the people who are truly skilled at distinguishing ready patches from not-ready patches are already committers, but a non-committer review catching even one important problem adds value. I'd rather have more people getting involved in the process with high-effort reviews, however imperfect. > As in it > technical works, but it's better to do it in a different way. I'm not > sure how to catch those better. That's even harder, because it's subjective. Committers often disagree on such matters. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers