On 11/18/2011 09:35 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
Subdividing/rearranging contrib makes the packager's
life more complicated, *and* makes his users' lives more complicated,
if only because things aren't where they were before.  It seems unlikely
to happen, at least in the near term.

Users are visibly suffering by the current packaging. Production DBAs are afraid to install contrib because it's described as untrustworthy. They are hit by emergencies that the inspection tools would help with, but cannot get contrib installed easily without root permissions. They have performance issues that the contrib modules I'm trying to relocate into the server package would help with, but company policies related to post-deployment installation mean they cannot use them. They have to always be installed to make this class of problem go away.

If you feel there are more users that would be negatively impacted by some directories moving than what I'm describing above, we are a very fundamental disagreement here. The status quote for all of these extensions is widely understood to be unusable in common corporate environments. Packagers should be trying to improve the PostgreSQL experience, and I'm trying to help with that.

In the face of pushback from packagers, I can roll my own packages that are designed without this problem; I'm being pushed into doing that instead of working on community PostgreSQL already. But I'd really prefer to see this very common problem identified as so important it should get fixed everywhere instead.

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