On Wednesday 10 July 2002 03:24 am, Jan Wieck wrote: > Oliver Elphick wrote: > > The current upgrade process for PostgreSQL is founded on the idea that > > people build from source. With binary distributions, half the users > > wouldn't know what to do with source; they expect (and are entitled to
> I have to object here. The PostgreSQL upgrade process is based on > the idea of dump, install, initdb, restore. That has nothing to > do with building from source or installing from binaries. Let me interject a minor point here. I recall upgrade cycles where I had to install a newer pg_dump in order to get my data out of the old system due to bugs in the prior pg_dump. Getting two versions of PostgreSQL to cooexist peacefully in a binary packaged environment is a completely different problem than the typical 'from source' installation path -- which almost implies two versions available concurrently. I believe this is the artifact Oliver was alluding to. I personally have not had the luxury of having two complete installations available at one instant during RPM upgrades. Nor will any users of prepackaged binaries. > The problem why this conflicts with these package managers is, > because they work package per package, instead of looking at the > big picture. Who said you can replace package A before running > the pre-upgrade script of dependent package B? How does this create the problem? The postgresql-server subpackages of two versions are 'Package A' above. There is no package B. Define 'the big picture' for all possible permutations of installed packages, please. > Somehow this looks > like a foreign key violation to me. Oh, I forgot, RI constraints > are for documentation purposes only ... Greetings from the MySQL > documentation ;-) Is sarcasm really necessary? -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
