On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:28:03PM -0400, mlw wrote: > Oracle has a cost based optimizer, and they allow you to override > it, offer hints as to what it should do, or use the rules based > optimizer. They know that a cost based optimizer can not generate > the best query all the time.
Oracle's the wrong competition to cite here. IBM's optimiser and planner in DB2 is rather difficult to override; IBM actively discourages doing so. That's because it's the best there is. It's _far_ better than Oracle's, and has ever been so. It just about _always_ gets it right. Without presuming to speak for him, I'd suggest that Tom probably wants to get the planner to that level, rather than adding band-aids. > I say it is obvious it can never know enough, since statistics are Enough for what? The idea is that the statistics will get you the best-bet plan. You're trying to redefine what the best bet is; and Tom and others have suggested that a simple rule of thumb, "All else being more or less equal, prefer an index," is not a good one. > Now, given the choice of the two strategies on a table, both pretty > close to one another, the risk of poor performance for using the > index scan is minimal based on the statistics, but the risk of poor > performance for using the sequential scan is quite high on a large > table. I thought that's what the various cost estimates were there to cover. If this is all you're saying, then the feature is already there. -- ---- Andrew Sullivan 87 Mowat Avenue Liberty RMS Toronto, Ontario Canada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> M6K 3E3 +1 416 646 3304 x110 ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster