Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Only shared memory gives us near-zero cost for write/read.  99% of
> > > backends will not be using stats, so it has to be cheap.
> >
> > Not with a circular buffer it's not cheap, because you need interlocking
> > on writes.  Your claim that you can get away without that is simply
> > false.  You won't just get lost messages, you'll get corrupted messages.
>
> How do I get corrupt messages if they are all five bytes?  If I write
> five bytes, and another does the same, I guess the assembler could
> intersperse the writes so the oid gets to be a corrupt value.  Any cheap
> way around this, perhaps by skiping/clearing the write on a collision?
>
> >
> > > The collector program can read the shared memory stats and keep hashed
> > > values of accumulated stats.  It uses the "Loops" variable to know if it
> > > has read the current information in the buffer.
> >
> > And how does it sleep until the counter has been advanced?  Seems to me
> > it has to busy-wait (bad) or sleep (worse; if the minimum sleep delay
> > is 10 ms then it's guaranteed to miss a lot of data under load).
>
> I figured it could just wake up every few seconds and check.  It will
> remember the loop counter and current pointer, and read any new
> information.  I was thinking of a 20k buffer, which could cover about 4k
> events.

    Here  I  wonder what your EVENT is. With an Oid as identifier
    and a 1 byte (even if it'd be anoter 32-bit value), how  many
    messages do you want to generate to get these statistics:

    -   Number of sequential scans done per table.
    -   Number of tuples returned via sequential scans per table.
    -   Number of buffer cache lookups  done  through  sequential
        scans per table.
    -   Number  of  buffer  cache  hits  for sequential scans per
        table.
    -   Number of tuples inserted per table.
    -   Number of tuples updated per table.
    -   Number of tuples deleted per table.
    -   Number of index scans done per index.
    -   Number of index tuples returned per index.
    -   Number of buffer cache lookups  done  due  to  scans  per
        index.
    -   Number of buffer cache hits per index.
    -   Number  of  valid heap tuples returned via index scan per
        index.
    -   Number of buffer cache lookups done for heap fetches  via
        index scan per index.
    -   Number  of  buffer  cache hits for heap fetches via index
        scan per index.
    -   Number of buffer cache lookups not accountable for any of
        the above.
    -   Number  of  buffer  cache hits not accountable for any of
        the above.

    What I see is that there's a difference in what we  two  want
    to see in the statistics. You're talking about looking at the
    actual querystring and such. That's  information  useful  for
    someone   actually  looking  at  a  server,  to  see  what  a
    particular backend  is  doing.  On  my  notebook  a  parallel
    regression  test  (containing >4,000 queries) passes by under
    1:30, that's more than 40 queries per second. So that doesn't
    tell me much.

    What I'm after is to collect the above data over a week or so
    and then generate a report to identify the hot spots  of  the
    schema.  Which tables/indices cause the most disk I/O, what's
    the average percentage of tuples returned in scans (not  from
    the  query, I mean from the single scan inside of the joins).
    That's the information I need  to  know  where  to  look  for
    possibly  better  qualifications, useless indices that aren't
    worth to maintain and the like.


Jan

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