I now remember that we decided that it was too late in 7.1 to fix this: reorder INSERT firing in rules Added to TODO: Evaluate INSERT rules at end of query, rather than beginning -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026