On Sat, 2021-08-07 at 15:31 -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 12:43 PM Michael Meskes > <mes...@postgresql.org> wrote: > > Again, I didn't know the RMT was expecting anything from me. Yes, I > > knew I needed to spend some time on a technical issues, but that's > > exactly the information I had at the time. > > As Andrew mentioned, I sent you an email on the 30th -- a full week > prior to the email that formally timeboxed this open item. That > earlier email is here: > > https://postgr.es/m/CAH2-Wzk=qxtsp0h5ekv92eh0u22hvmqlhgwyp4_fa3ytiei...@mail.gmail.com
This email said nothing about sending a status update or a deadline or any question at all, only that you'd revert the patch if I was unable to resolve the issue. So what's your point? > I also talked about the RMT in the third person. My intent was to > make So? It's okay to disrespect a person if you mention the team that you are representing in the third person, too? > the message legalistic and impersonal. That's what is driving our > thinking on this -- the charter of the RMT. Please show me where the charter says that disrespecting a person is fine. And while we're add it, does the code of conduct say anything about the way people should be treated? > We're all volunteers, just like you. I happen to be a big believer in > our culture of personal ownership and personal responsibility. But > you > simply haven't engaged with us at all. Which I tried to explain several times, but apparently not well enough. Let me give you a short rundown from my perspective: - A patch is sent that I mistakenly thought was a new feature and thus did not apply time too immediately. - After a while I get an email from you as spokesperson of the RMT that if this is not fixed it'll have to be reverted eventually. - I learn that Andrew tried to reach me. Again, I believe you Andrew, that you sent the email, but I never saw it. Whether it's some filtering or a user error that made it disappear, I have no idea, but I'm surely sorry about that. - I receive that email we keep talking about, the one in which you treat me like I'm not even worth being addressed. > You didn't say anything at all, which speaks for itself. And makes it > impossible for us to be flexible. Which flexibility did I ask for? It'd be nice if you only accused me of things I did. Honestly I do not understand you at all. You keep treating me like I was asking for anything unreasonable while I'm only trying to explain why I didn't act earlier. The only issue I have is the rude treatment you gave me. Just for the record, of course I'm going to look into the issue before your deadline and will send a status update. Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael at Fam-Meskes dot De Michael at Meskes dot (De|Com|Net|Org) Meskes at (Debian|Postgresql) dot Org