> On 22 Feb 2021, at 11:52, Magnus Hagander <mag...@hagander.net> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 1:51 PM Daniel Gustafsson <dan...@yesql.se> wrote:
>> 
>> A few years ago we discussed whether to disable SSL compression [0] which 
>> ended
>> up with it being off by default combined with a recommendation against it in
>> the docs.
>> 
>> OpenSSL themselves disabled SSL compression by default in 2016 in 1.1.0 with
>> distros often having had it disabled for a long while before then.  Further,
>> TLSv1.3 removes compression entirely on the protocol level mandating that 
>> only
>> NULL compression is allowed in the ClientHello.  NSS, which is discussed in
>> another thread, removed SSL compression entirely in version 3.33 in 2017.
>> 
>> It seems about time to revisit this since it's unlikely to work anywhere but 
>> in
>> a very small subset of system setups (being disabled by default everywhere) 
>> and
>> is thus likely to be very untested at best.  There is also the security 
>> aspect
>> which is less clear-cut for us compared to HTTP client/servers, but not 
>> refuted
>> (the linked thread has a good discussion on this).
> 
> Agreed. It will also help with not having to implement it in new SSL
> implementations I'm sure :)

Not really, no other TLS library I would consider using actually has
compression (except maybe wolfSSL?).  GnuTLS and NSS both removed it, and
Secure Transport and Schannel never had it AFAIK.

>> The attached removes sslcompression to see what it would look like.  The 
>> server
>> actively disallows it and the parameter is removed, but the sslcompression
>> column in the stat view is retained.  An alternative could be to retain the
>> parameter but not act on it in order to not break scripts etc, but that just
>> postpones the pain until when we inevitably do remove it.
>> 
>> Thoughts?  Any reason to keep supporting SSL compression or is it time for 
>> v14
>> to remove it?  Are there still users leveraging this for protocol compression
>> without security making it worthwhile to keep?
> 
> When the last round of discussion happened, I had multiple customers
> who did exactly that. None of them do that anymore, due to the pain of
> making it work...

Unsurprisingly.

> I think for libpq we want to keep the option for a while but making it
> a no-op, to not unnecessarily break systems where people just upgrade
> libpq, though. And document it as such having no effect and "will
> eventually be removed".

Agreed, that's better.

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