Hi,

On 2020-09-08 15:24:54 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andres Freund <and...@anarazel.de> writes:
> > But now I do wonder why we need to know whether the command is top level
> > or not? Why isn't the correct thing to instead look at what the current
> > backend's xmin is? Seems like you could just replace
> >     *oldestXmin = XidFromFullTransactionId(ReadNextFullTransactionId());
> > with
> >     *oldestXmin = MyProc->xmin;
> >     Assert(TransactionIdIsValid(*oldestXmin));
> 
> Ummm ... since VACUUM doesn't run inside a transaction, it won't be
> advertising an xmin will it?

We do run it in a transaction though:

static bool
vacuum_rel(Oid relid, RangeVar *relation, VacuumParams *params)
{
...
        /* Begin a transaction for vacuuming this relation */
        StartTransactionCommand();

        /*
         * Need to acquire a snapshot to prevent pg_subtrans from being 
truncated,
         * cutoff xids in local memory wrapping around, and to have updated xmin
         * horizons.
         */
        PushActiveSnapshot(GetTransactionSnapshot());


> Maybe you could make something like this work, but I think it'd still
> have to treat CLUSTER as a special case.  Not sure it's worth it.

Why would CLUSTER need to be special cased? We'd precisely retain the
rows we need to, I think? Given that we'd exactly use the snapshot that
rules that determines which rows need to be retained?

Greetings,

Andres Freund


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