On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 07:57:31PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On 2020-06-24 10:33, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> > > In PG13, we raised the server-side default of ssl_min_protocol_version to 
> > > TLSv1.2.  We also added a connection setting named 
> > > ssl_min_protocol_version to libpq.  But AFAICT, the default value of the 
> > > libpq setting is empty, so any protocol version will be accepted.  Is 
> > > this what we wanted?  Should we raise the default in libpq as well?
> > 
> > This was discussed [0] when the connection settings were introduced, and the
> > concensus was to leave them alone [1] to allow for example a new pg_dump to
> > work against an old server.  Re-reading the thread I think the argument 
> > still
> > holds, but I was about to respond "yes, let's do this" before refreshing my
> > memory.  Perhaps we should add a comment explaining this along the lines of 
> > the
> > attached?
> > 
> > [0] 
> > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/157800160408.1198.1714906047977693148.pgcf%40coridan.postgresql.org
> > [1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/31993.1578321474%40sss.pgh.pa.us
> 
> ISTM that these discussions went through the same questions and arguments
> that were made regarding the server-side change but arrived at a different
> conclusion.  So I suggest to reconsider this so that we don't ship with
> contradictory results.
> 
> That doesn't necessarily mean that we have to make a change, but we should
> make sure our rationale is sound.
> 
> Note that all OpenSSL versions that do not support TLSv1.2 also do not
> support TLSv1.1.  So by saying, in effect, that TLSv1.2 is too new to
> require, we are saying that we need to keep supporting TLSv1.0 -- which is
> heavily deprecated.  Also note that the first OpenSSL version with support
> for TLSv1.2 shipped on March 14, 2012.

I do think mismatched SSL requirements between client and server is
confusing, though I can see the back-version pg_dump being an issue. 
Maybe a clear error message would help here.

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