On 4/11/20 12:28 PM, Mark Dilger wrote:
>
>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Andrew Dunstan <andrew.duns...@2ndquadrant.com> 
>> wrote:
> Hi Andrew.  I appreciate your interest and efforts here.  I hope you don't 
> mind a few questions/observations about this effort:


Not at all.


>
>>  The
>> last one fixes the mixture of high and low precedence boolean operators,
> I did not spot examples of this in your diffs, but I assume you mean to 
> prohibit conditionals like:
>
>     if ($a || $b and $c || $d)
>
> As I understand it, perl introduced low precedence operators precisely to 
> allow this.  Why disallow it?


The docs say:


    Conway advises against combining the low-precedence booleans ( |and
    or not| ) with the high-precedence boolean operators ( |&& || !| )
    in the same expression. Unless you fully understand the differences
    between the high and low-precedence operators, it is easy to
    misinterpret expressions that use both. And even if you do
    understand them, it is not always clear if the author actually
    intended it.

    |next| |if| |not ||$foo| ||| ||$bar||;  ||#not ok|
    |next| |if| |!||$foo| ||| ||$bar||;     ||#ok|
    |next| |if| |!( ||$foo| ||| ||$bar| |); ||#ok|


I don't feel terribly strongly about it, but personally I just about
never use the low precendence operators, and mostly prefer to resolve
precedence issue with parentheses.


>
>> and the use of commas to separate statements
> I don't understand the prejudice against commas used this way.  What is wrong 
> with:
>
>     $i++, $j++ if defined $k;
>
> rather than:
>
>     if (defined $k)
>     {
>         $i++;
>         $j++;
>     }
>


I don't think the example is terribly clear. I have to look at it and
think "Does it do $i++ if $k isn't defined?"

In the cases we actually have there isn't even any shorthand advantage
like this. There are only a couple of cases.


cheers


andrew

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