On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 2:47 PM Mark Dilger <mark.dil...@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 2, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Andres Freund <and...@anarazel.de> wrote:
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> >> Hmm, for some reason I had it in my head that we would make these use an
> >> "epoch/val" output format rather than raw uint64 values.
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> > Why would we do that? IMO the goal should be to reduce awareness of the
> > 32bitness of normal xids from as many places as possible, and treat them
> > as an internal space optimization.
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> I agree with transitioning to 64-bit xids with 32 bit xid/epoch pairs as an 
> internal implementation and storage detail only, but we still have user 
> facing views that don't treat it that way.   pg_stat_get_activity still 
> returns backend_xid and backend_xmin as 32-bit, not 64-bit.  Should this 
> function change to be consistent?  I'm curious what the user experience will 
> be during the transitional period where some user facing xids are 64 bit and 
> others (perhaps the same xids but viewed elsewhere) will be 32 bit.  That 
> might make it difficult for users to match them up.


Agreed. The "benefit" (at least in the short term) of using the
epoch/value style is that it makes (visual, at least) comparison with
other (32-bit) xid values easier.

I'm not sure if that's worth it, or if it's worth making a change
depend on changing all of those views too.

James


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