On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 6:41 PM Amit Kapila <amit.kapil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 6:18 PM Julien Rouhaud <rjuju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > =# select query, calls, wal_bytes, wal_records, wal_num_fpw from 
> > pg_stat_statements where query ilike '%create index%';
> >                   query                       | calls | wal_bytes | 
> > wal_records | wal_num_fpw
> > ----------------------------------------------+-------+-----------+-------------+-------------
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_0 ON t1(id)     |     1 |  20389743 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_0_bis ON t1(id) |     1 |  20394391 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_0_ter ON t1(id) |     1 |  20395155 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_1 ON t1(id)     |     1 |  20388335 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_2 ON t1(id)     |     1 |  20389091 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_3 ON t1(id)     |     1 |  20389847 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_4 ON t1(id)     |     1 |  20390603 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_5 ON t1(id)     |     1 |  20391359 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_6 ON t1(id)     |     1 |  20392115 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_7 ON t1(id)     |     1 |  20392871 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> >  create index t1_idx_parallel_8 ON t1(id)     |     1 |  20393627 |        
> > 2762 |        2758
> > (11 rows)
> >
> > =# select relname, pg_relation_size(oid) from pg_class where relname like 
> > '%t1_id%';
> >       relname          | pg_relation_size
> > -----------------------+------------------
> >  t1_idx_parallel_0     |         22487040
> >  t1_idx_parallel_0_bis |         22487040
> >  t1_idx_parallel_0_ter |         22487040
> >  t1_idx_parallel_2     |         22487040
> >  t1_idx_parallel_1     |         22487040
> >  t1_idx_parallel_4     |         22487040
> >  t1_idx_parallel_3     |         22487040
> >  t1_idx_parallel_5     |         22487040
> >  t1_idx_parallel_6     |         22487040
> >  t1_idx_parallel_7     |         22487040
> >  t1_idx_parallel_8     |         22487040
> > (9 rows)
> >
> >
> > So while the number of WAL records and full page images stay constant, we 
> > can
> > see some small fluctuations in the total amount of generated WAL data, even 
> > for
> > multiple execution of the sequential create index.  I'm wondering if the
> > fluctuations are due to some other internal details or if the WalUsage 
> > support
> > is just completely broken (although I don't see any obvious issue ATM).
> >
>
> I think we need to know the reason for this.  Can you try with small
> size indexes and see if the problem is reproducible? If it is, then it
> will be easier to debug the same.

I have done some testing to see where these extra WAL size is coming
from.  First I tried to create new db before every run then the size
is consistent.  But, then on the same server, I tired as Julien showed
in his experiment then I am getting few extra wal bytes from next
create index onwards.  And, the waldump(attached in the mail) shows
that is pg_class insert wal.  I still have to check that why we need
to write an extra wal size.

create extension pg_stat_statements;
drop table t1;
create table t1(id integer);
insert into t1 select * from generate_series(1, 10);
alter table t1 set (parallel_workers = 0);
vacuum;checkpoint;
select * from pg_stat_statements_reset() ;
create index t1_idx_parallel_0 ON t1(id);
select query, calls, wal_bytes, wal_records, wal_num_fpw from
pg_stat_statements where query ilike '%create index%';;
                                      query
           | calls | wal_bytes | wal_records | wal_num_fpw
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------+-----------+-------------+-------------
 create index t1_idx_parallel_0 ON t1(id)
           |     1 |     49320 |          23 |          15


drop table t1;
create table t1(id integer);
insert into t1 select * from generate_series(1, 10);
--select * from pg_stat_statements_reset() ;
alter table t1 set (parallel_workers = 0);
vacuum;checkpoint;
create index t1_idx_parallel_1 ON t1(id);

select query, calls, wal_bytes, wal_records, wal_num_fpw from
pg_stat_statements where query ilike '%create index%';;
postgres[110383]=# select query, calls, wal_bytes, wal_records,
wal_num_fpw from pg_stat_statements;
                                      query
           | calls | wal_bytes | wal_records | wal_num_fpw
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------+-----------+-------------+-------------
 create index t1_idx_parallel_1 ON t1(id)
           |     1 |     50040 |          23 |          15

wal_bytes diff = 50040-49320 = 720

Below, WAL record is causing the 720 bytes difference, all other WALs
are of the same size.
t1_idx_parallel_0:
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):     54/  7498, tx:        489, lsn:
0/0167B9B0, prev 0/0167B970, desc: INSERT off 30 flags 0x01, blkref
#0: rel 1663/13580/1249

t1_idx_parallel_1:
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):     54/  8218, tx:        494, lsn:
0/016B84F8, prev 0/016B84B8, desc: INSERT off 30 flags 0x01, blkref
#0: rel 1663/13580/1249

wal diff: 8218 - 7498 = 720


-- 
Regards,
Dilip Kumar
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
rmgr: Standby     len (rec/tot):     50/    50, tx:          0, lsn: 
0/016B6288, prev 0/016B6210, desc: RUNNING_XACTS nextXid 494 latestCompletedXid 
493 oldestRunningXid 494
rmgr: Storage     len (rec/tot):     42/    42, tx:          0, lsn: 
0/016B62C0, prev 0/016B6288, desc: CREATE base/13580/16405
rmgr: Standby     len (rec/tot):     42/    42, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016B62F0, prev 0/016B62C0, desc: LOCK xid 494 db 13580 rel 16405 
rmgr: Heap2       len (rec/tot):     60/    60, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016B6320, prev 0/016B62F0, desc: NEW_CID rel 1663/13580/1259; tid 0/2; cmin: 
0, cmax: 4294967295, combo: 4294967295
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):     54/  1322, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016B6360, prev 0/016B6320, desc: INSERT off 2 flags 0x01, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/1259 blk 0 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  2253, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016B6890, prev 0/016B6360, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 108, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2662 blk 2 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  3881, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016B7160, prev 0/016B6890, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 88, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2663 blk 2 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  1033, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016B80A8, prev 0/016B7160, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 47, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/3455 blk 4 FPW
rmgr: Heap2       len (rec/tot):     60/    60, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016B84B8, prev 0/016B80A8, desc: NEW_CID rel 1663/13580/1249; tid 16/30; 
cmin: 0, cmax: 4294967295, combo: 4294967295
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):     54/  8218, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016B84F8, prev 0/016B84B8, desc: INSERT off 30 flags 0x01, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/1249 blk 16 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  1373, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016BA530, prev 0/016B84F8, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 40, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2658 blk 14 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  6753, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016BAA90, prev 0/016BA530, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 333, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2659 blk 9 FPW
rmgr: Heap2       len (rec/tot):     60/    60, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016BC510, prev 0/016BAA90, desc: NEW_CID rel 1663/13580/2610; tid 3/20; cmin: 
0, cmax: 4294967295, combo: 4294967295
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):     54/  3582, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016BC550, prev 0/016BC510, desc: INSERT off 20 flags 0x01, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2610 blk 3 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  3193, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016BD350, prev 0/016BC550, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 155, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2678 blk 1 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  3193, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016BDFD0, prev 0/016BD350, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 155, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2679 blk 1 FPW
rmgr: Heap2       len (rec/tot):     60/    60, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016BEC68, prev 0/016BDFD0, desc: NEW_CID rel 1663/13580/2608; tid 56/64; 
cmin: 0, cmax: 4294967295, combo: 4294967295
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):     54/  4798, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016BECA8, prev 0/016BEC68, desc: INSERT off 64 flags 0x01, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2608 blk 56 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  1149, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016BFF68, prev 0/016BECA8, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 32, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2673 blk 32 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  8121, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016C0400, prev 0/016BFF68, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 287, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2674 blk 39 FPW
rmgr: XLOG        len (rec/tot):     49/   289, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016C23D8, prev 0/016C0400, desc: FPI , blkref #0: rel 1663/13580/16405 blk 1 
FPW
rmgr: XLOG        len (rec/tot):     49/   137, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016C2500, prev 0/016C23D8, desc: FPI , blkref #0: rel 1663/13580/16405 blk 0 
FPW
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):    233/   233, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016C2590, prev 0/016C2500, desc: INPLACE off 4, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/1259 blk 0
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):    188/   188, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016C2680, prev 0/016C2590, desc: INPLACE off 2, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/1259 blk 0
rmgr: Transaction len (rec/tot):    274/   274, tx:        494, lsn: 
0/016C2740, prev 0/016C2680, desc: COMMIT 2020-04-02 20:41:00.529118 IST; inval 
msgs: catcache 50 catcache 49 catcache 50 catcache 49 catcache 50 catcache 49 
catcache 7 catcache 6 catcache 32 relcache 16402 relcache 16405 relcache 16405 
relcache 16402 snapshot 2608
rmgr: Standby     len (rec/tot):     50/    50, tx:          0, lsn: 
0/01679740, prev 0/016796C8, desc: RUNNING_XACTS nextXid 489 latestCompletedXid 
488 oldestRunningXid 489
rmgr: Storage     len (rec/tot):     42/    42, tx:          0, lsn: 
0/01679778, prev 0/01679740, desc: CREATE base/13580/16401
rmgr: Standby     len (rec/tot):     42/    42, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/016797A8, prev 0/01679778, desc: LOCK xid 489 db 13580 rel 16401 
rmgr: Heap2       len (rec/tot):     60/    60, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/016797D8, prev 0/016797A8, desc: NEW_CID rel 1663/13580/1259; tid 0/2; cmin: 
0, cmax: 4294967295, combo: 4294967295
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):     54/  1322, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/01679818, prev 0/016797D8, desc: INSERT off 2 flags 0x01, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/1259 blk 0 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  2253, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/01679D48, prev 0/01679818, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 108, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2662 blk 2 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  3881, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/0167A630, prev 0/01679D48, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 88, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2663 blk 2 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  1033, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/0167B560, prev 0/0167A630, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 47, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/3455 blk 4 FPW
rmgr: Heap2       len (rec/tot):     60/    60, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/0167B970, prev 0/0167B560, desc: NEW_CID rel 1663/13580/1249; tid 16/30; 
cmin: 0, cmax: 4294967295, combo: 4294967295
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):     54/  7498, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/0167B9B0, prev 0/0167B970, desc: INSERT off 30 flags 0x01, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/1249 blk 16 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  1373, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/0167D718, prev 0/0167B9B0, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 40, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2658 blk 14 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  6753, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/0167DC78, prev 0/0167D718, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 333, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2659 blk 9 FPW
rmgr: Heap2       len (rec/tot):     60/    60, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/0167F6F8, prev 0/0167DC78, desc: NEW_CID rel 1663/13580/2610; tid 3/20; cmin: 
0, cmax: 4294967295, combo: 4294967295
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):     54/  3582, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/0167F738, prev 0/0167F6F8, desc: INSERT off 20 flags 0x01, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2610 blk 3 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  3193, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/01680550, prev 0/0167F738, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 155, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2678 blk 1 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  3193, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/016811D0, prev 0/01680550, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 155, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2679 blk 1 FPW
rmgr: Heap2       len (rec/tot):     60/    60, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/01681E50, prev 0/016811D0, desc: NEW_CID rel 1663/13580/2608; tid 56/64; 
cmin: 0, cmax: 4294967295, combo: 4294967295
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):     54/  4798, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/01681E90, prev 0/01681E50, desc: INSERT off 64 flags 0x01, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2608 blk 56 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  1149, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/01683168, prev 0/01681E90, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 32, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2673 blk 32 FPW
rmgr: Btree       len (rec/tot):     53/  8121, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/016835E8, prev 0/01683168, desc: INSERT_LEAF off 287, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/2674 blk 39 FPW
rmgr: XLOG        len (rec/tot):     49/   289, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/016855C0, prev 0/016835E8, desc: FPI , blkref #0: rel 1663/13580/16401 blk 1 
FPW
rmgr: XLOG        len (rec/tot):     49/   137, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/016856E8, prev 0/016855C0, desc: FPI , blkref #0: rel 1663/13580/16401 blk 0 
FPW
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):    233/   233, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/01685778, prev 0/016856E8, desc: INPLACE off 9, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/1259 blk 0
rmgr: Heap        len (rec/tot):    188/   188, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/01685868, prev 0/01685778, desc: INPLACE off 2, blkref #0: rel 
1663/13580/1259 blk 0
rmgr: Transaction len (rec/tot):    274/   274, tx:        489, lsn: 
0/01685928, prev 0/01685868, desc: COMMIT 2020-04-02 20:39:36.189621 IST; inval 
msgs: catcache 50 catcache 49 catcache 50 catcache 49 catcache 50 catcache 49 
catcache 7 catcache 6 catcache 32 relcache 16398 relcache 16401 relcache 16401 
relcache 16398 snapshot 2608

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