Hi, On 2019-11-05 22:00:58 -0500, Chapman Flack wrote: > On 11/05/19 18:54, Andres Freund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There's a few errors that we issue that are, often, much less bad than > > they sound. The most common cases I immediately can recall are: > > > > > > 1) Mentioning crash, once for each backend, when shutting down > > immediately. Currently the log output for that, with just two sessions > > connected, is the following: > > While on the topic ... this may be more a property of particular > packagings of the server, to run under systemd etc., but often there > is a process during startup trying periodically to open a connection > to the server to confirm that it has successfully started, and the > result is a dozen or so log messages that say "FATAL: the server is > starting" ... which is amusing once you get what it's doing, but a bit > disconcerting until then.
I think that is best solved by using pg_ctl's logic to look at the postmaster state file, rather than connecting before the server is ready. For one connecting requires to actually be able to connect, which isn't always a given. If using pg_ctl is problematic for some reason, it'd imo be better to extract the relevant logic into its own tool. > Not sure how that could be changed ... maybe a connection-time option > trial_connection that would suppress the fatal ereport on rejecting > the connection? I think that'd be a recipe for hard to debug issues. Imagine somebody DOSing the server and setting that option - you'd have no way to actually see what's happening. Greetings, Andres Freund