On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 01:03:06PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 01:24:54PM +0900, Masahiko Sawada wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:33 AM Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> wrote: > > > then each row change gets its own LSN. You are asking if an update that > > > just expires one row and adds it to a new page gets the same LSN. I > > > don't know. > > > > The following scripts can reproduce that different two pages have the same > > LSN. > > > > =# create table test (a int); > > CREATE TABLE > > =# insert into test select generate_series(1, 226); > > INSERT 0 226 > > =# update test set a = a where a = 1; > > UPDATE 1 > > =# select lsn from page_header(get_raw_page('test', 0)); > > lsn > > ----------- > > 0/1690488 > > (1 row) > > > > =# select lsn from page_header(get_raw_page('test', 1)); > > lsn > > ----------- > > 0/1690488 > > (1 row) > > > > So I think it's better to use LSN and page number to create IV. If we > > modify different tables by single WAL we also would need OID or > > relfilenode but I don't think currently we have such operations. > > OK, good to know, thanks.
I did some more research on which cases use a single LSN to modify multiple 8k pages. The normal program flow is: XLogBeginInsert(); ... XLogRegisterBuffer(0, meta, ... --> recptr = XLogInsert(RM_BRIN_ID, XLOG_... page = BufferGetPage(meta); PageSetLSN(page, recptr); XLogInsert() calls BufferGetTag(), which fills in the buffer's RelFileNode (which internally is the tablespace, database, and pg_class.relfilenode). So, to use the LSN and page-number for the IV, we need to make sure that there is no other encryption of those values in a different relation. What I did was to find cases where XLogRegisterBuffer/PageSetLSN are called more than once for a single LSN. I found cases in: brin_doupdate brin_doinsert brinRevmapDesummarizeRange revmap_physical_extend GenericXLogFinish ginPlaceToPage shiftList ginDeletePage gistXLogSplit gistXLogPageDelete gistXLogUpdate hashbucketcleanup _hash_doinsert _hash_vacuum_one_page _hash_addovflpage _hash_freeovflpage _hash_squeezebucket _hash_init _hash_expandtable _hash_splitbucket log_heap_visible log_heap_update _bt_insertonpg _bt_split _bt_newroot _bt_getroot _bt_mark_page_halfdead _bt_unlink_halfdead_page addLeafTuple moveLeafs doPickSplit spgSplitNodeAction log_newpage_range Most of these are either updating the different pages in the same relation (so the page-number for the IV would be different), or are modifying other types of files, like vm. (We have not discussed if we are going to encrypt vm or fsm. I am guessing we are not.) You might say, well, is it terrible if we reuse the LSN in a different relation with the same page number? Yes. The way CTR works, it generates a stream of bits using the key and IV (which will be LSN and page number). It then XORs it with the page contents to encrypt it. If we encrypt an all-zero gap in a page, or a place in the page where the page format is known, a user can XOR that with the encrypted data and get the bit stream at that point. They can then go to another page that uses the same key and IV and XOR that to get the decrypted data. CBC mode is slightly better because it mixes the user data into the future 16-byte blocks, but lots of our early-byte page format is known, so it isn't great. You might say, wow, that is a lot of places to make sure we don't reuse the LSN in a different relation with the same page number --- let's mix the relfilenode in the IV so we are sure the IV is not reused. Well, the pg_class.relfilenode is only unique within the tablespace/database, i.e., from src/include/storage/relfilenode.h: * relNode identifies the specific relation. relNode corresponds to * pg_class.relfilenode (NOT pg_class.oid, because we need to be able * to assign new physical files to relations in some situations). * Notice that relNode is only unique within a database in a particular * tablespace. So, we would need to mix the tablespace, database oid, and relfilenode into the IV to be unique. We would then need to have pg_upgrade preserve the relfilenode, change CREATE DATABASE to decrypt/encrypt when creating a new database, and no longer allow files to be moved between tablespaces without decryption/encryption. There are just a whole host of complexities we add to encryption if we add the requirement of preserving the refilenode, tablespace, and database to decrypt each page. I just don't think we want go there unless we have a valid reason. I am thinking of writing some Assert() code that checks that all buffers using a single LSN are from the same relation (and therefore different page numbers). I would do it by creating a static array, clearing it on XLogBeginInsert(), adding to it for each XLogInsert(), then checking on PageSetLSN() that everything in the array is from the same file. Does that make sense? -- Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + As you are, so once was I. As I am, so you will be. + + Ancient Roman grave inscription +