Alvaro,

Thanks again for your review. I went through your proposed patch diffs and
applied most of them to my original changes. I did a few things slightly
differently since I wanted to keep to to 80 columns for the source code,
but I can revisit that if it is not an issue. I also cleaned up the
confusing wording around "allocating blocks". I ran a clean build and make
check passes. The new patch is attached.

Thanks,
Jerry


On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 4:12 PM Alvaro Herrera <alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com>
wrote:

> On 2019-Feb-05, Jerry Jelinek wrote:
>
> > First, since last fall, we have found another performance problem related
> > to initializing WAL files. I've described this issue in more detail
> below,
> > but in order to handle this new problem, I decided to generalize the
> patch
> > so the tunable refers to running on a Copy-On-Write filesystem instead of
> > just being specific to WAL recycling. Specifically, I renamed the GUC
> > tunable from 'wal_recycle' to 'wal_cow_fs'. Hopefully this will make it
> > more obvious what is being tuned and will also be more flexible if there
> > are other problems in the future which are related to running on a COW
> > filesystem. I'm happy to choose a different name for the tunable if
> people
> > don't like 'wal_cow_fs'.
>
> I think the idea of it being a generic tunable for assorted behavior
> changes, rather than specific to WAL recycling, is a good one.  I'm
> unsure about your proposed name -- maybe "wal_cow_filesystem" is better?
>
> I'm rewording your doc addition a little bit.  Here's my proposal:
>
>        <para>
>         This parameter should only be set to <literal>on</literal> when
> the WAL
>         resides on a <firstterm>Copy-On-Write</firstterm>
> (<acronym>COW</acronym>)
>         filesystem.
>         Enabling this option adjusts behavior to take advantage of the
>         filesystem characteristics (for example, recycling WAL files and
>         zero-filling new WAL files are disabled).
>
> This part sounds good enough to me -- further suggestions welcome.
>
> I'm less sure about this phrase:
>
>         This setting is only appropriate for filesystems which
>         allocate new disk blocks on every write.
>
> Is "... which allocate new disk blocks on every write" a technique
> distinct from CoW itself?  I'm confused as to what it means, or how can
> the user tell whether they are on such a filesystem.
>
> Obviously you're thinking that ZFS is such a filesystem and everybody
> who has pg_wal on ZFS should enable this option.  What about, say, Btrfs
> -- should they turn this option on?  Browsing the wikipedia, I find that
> Windows has this ReFS thing that apparently is also CoW, but NTFS isn't.
> I don't think either Btrfs or ReFS are realistic options to put pg_wal
> on, so let's just list the common filesystems for which users are
> supposed to enable this option ... which I think nowadays is just ZFS.
> All in all, I would replace this phrase with something like: "This
> setting should be enabled when pg_wal resides on a ZFS filesystem or
> similar." That should be weasely enough that it's clear that we expect
> users to do the homework when on unusual systems, while actively pointing
> out the most common use case.
>
> > Finally, the patch now includes bypassing the zero-fill for new WAL files
> > when wal_cow_fs is true.
>
> That makes sense.  I think all these benchmarks Tomas Vondra run are not
> valid anymore ...
>
> The attached v2 has assorted cosmetic cleanups.  If you can validate it,
> I would appreciate it.
>
> --
> Álvaro Herrera                https://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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