On 23/01/2019 01:03, maayan mordehai wrote:
hello,

I'm Maayan, I'm in a DBA team that uses postgresql.
I saw in the documentation on wals:
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/10/wal-intro.html
In the tip box that, it's better not to use a  journaling filesystem. and I
wanted to ask how it works?
can't we get corruption that we can't recover from?
I mean what if postgres in the middle of a write to a wal and there is a
crash, and it didn't finish.
I'm assuming it will detect it when we will start postgres and write that
it was rolled back, am I right?

Yep, any half-written transactions will be rolled back.

and how does it work in the data level? if some of the 8k block is written
but not all of it, and then there is a crash, how postgres deals with it?

The first time a block is modified after a checkpoint, a copy of the block is written to the WAL. At crash recovery, the block is restored from the WAL. This mechanism is called "full page writes".

The WAL works just like the journal in a journaling filesystem. That's why it's not necessary to have journaling at the filesystem level.

- Heikki

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