On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 10:24 PM Robert Haas <robertmh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 4:24 PM Jeff Davis <pg...@j-davis.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2025-04-01 at 09:37 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> > > I don't think I was aware of the open item; I was just catching up on
> > > email.
> >
> > I lean towards making it opt-in for pg_dump and opt-out for pg_upgrade.
>
> Big +1.
>

I may have missed something (we seem to have a lot of threads for this
subject), but we are in beta and both pg_dump and pg_upgrade seem to be
opt-out? I still object strongly to this;  pg_dump is meant to be a
canonical representation of the schema and data. Adding metadata that can
change from dump to dump seems wrong, and should be opt-in. I've not been
convinced otherwise why stats should be output by default.

To be clear, I 100% want it to be the default for pg_upgrade.

Maybe we are just leaving it enabled to see if anyone complains in beta,
but I don't want us to forget about it. :)

Cheers,
Greg

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