Andrei Lepikhov писал(а) 2025-04-29 16:52:
On 4/25/25 17:13, Andrei Lepikhov wrote:
On 4/25/25 11:16, Alexander Pyhalov wrote:
Usually, sorted cheapest_total_path will be cheaper than sorted fractional/startup path at least by startup cost (as after sorting it includes total_cost of input path). But we ignore this case when selecting cheapest_startup and cheapest_fractional subpaths. As result selected cheapest_startup and cheapest_fractional can be not cheapest for startup or selecting a fraction of rows.
I don't know what you mean by that. The cheapest_total_path is considered when we chose optimal cheapest_total path. The same works for the fractional path - get_cheapest_fractional_path gives us the most optimal fractional path and probes cheapest_total_path too. As above, not sure about min-startup case for now. I can imagine MergeAppend over sophisticated subquery: non-sorted includes highly parameterised JOINs and the alternative (with pathkeys) includes HashJoin, drastically increasing startup cost. It is only a theory, of course. So, lets discover how min-startup works.
After a second thought I have caught your idea. I agree that for a fractional path it have no sense to choose any other path except a cheapest total one.
There are the modified patch in the attachment.

Also, to be more objective, I propose to use examples in argumentation - something like in attached test2.sql script.

Hi.
I've looked through new patch and found minor inconsistencies in get_cheapest_path_for_pathkeys_ext() and get_cheapest_fractional_path_for_pathkeys_ext().

In get_cheapest_fractional_path_for_pathkeys_ext() we check that base_path is not NULL path = get_cheapest_fractional_path_for_pathkeys(rel->pathlist, pathkeys, required_outer, fraction);

       base_path = rel->cheapest_total_path;

       /* Stop here if the path doesn't satisfy necessary conditions */
if (!base_path || !bms_is_subset(PATH_REQ_OUTER(base_path), required_outer))
               return path;

But it seems, base_path can't be NULL (as add_paths_to_append_rel() is called after set_rel_pathlist() for childrels). However, path can. Can we do these two functions get_cheapest_path_for_pathkeys_ext() and get_cheapest_fractional_path_for_pathkeys_ext()
more similar?

Also we check base_path for required_outer and require_parallel_safe, but if cheapest path for pathkeys is NULL, these checks are not performed. Luckily, they seen to be no-op anyway due to cheapest_total->param_info == NULL and function arguments being NULL (required_outer) and false (require_parallel_safe). Should we do something about this? Don't know, perhaps, remove these misleading arguments?

Now, if we return cheapest_total_path from get_cheapest_fractional_path_for_pathkeys_ext() if cheapest paths for pathkeys don't exist, do the following lines


                                /*
* If we found no path with matching pathkeys, use the
                                 * cheapest total path instead.
                                 *
* XXX We might consider partially sorted paths too (with an * incremental sort on top). But we'd have to build all the * incremental paths, do the costing etc.
                                 */
                                if (!cheapest_fractional)
cheapest_fractional = cheapest_total;

become no-op? And we do return non-null path from get_cheapest_fractional_path_for_pathkeys_ext(), as it seems we return either cheapest_total_path or cheapest fractional path from get_cheapest_fractional_path_for_pathkeys_ext().

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Best regards,
Alexander Pyhalov,
Postgres Professional


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